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Kilroy was here

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  1. Ahab

    Ahab Well-Known Member

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    Kilroy was here.


    A bit of trivia - even if you never heard of Kilroy before.


    For the WWII generation, this will bring back memories. For you younger folks, it's a bit of trivia that is a part of our American history. Anyone born in 1913 to about 1950, is familiar with Kilroy. We didn't know why, but we had lapel pins with his nose hanging over the label and the top of his face above his nose with his hands hanging over the label. No one knew why he was so well known, but we all joined in!


    So who the heck was Kilroy?


    In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio program, "Speak to America ," sponsored a nationwide contest to find the real Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could prove himself to be the genuine article. Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim, but only James Kilroy from Halifax , Massachusetts , had evidence of his identity.


    Kilroy was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war who worked as a checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy . His job was to go around and check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and got paid by the rivet. He would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. When Kilroy went off duty, the riveters would erase the mark. Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters.


    One day Kilroy's boss called him into his office. The foreman was upset about all the wages being paid to riveters, and asked him to investigate. It was then he realized what had been going on. The tight spaces he had to crawl in to check the rivets didn't lend themselves to lugging around a paint can and brush, so Kilroy decided to stick with the waxy chalk. He continued to put his checkmark on each job he inspected, but added KILROY WAS HERE in king-sized letters next to the check, and eventually added the sketch of the chap with the long nose peering over the fence and that became part of the Kilroy message. Once he did that, the riveters stopped trying to wipe away his marks.


    Ordinarily the rivets and chalk marks would have been covered up with paint. With the war on, however, ships were leaving the Quincy Yard so fast that there wasn't time to paint them. As a result, Kilroy's inspection "trademark" was seen by thousands of servicemen who boarded the troopships the yard produced.


    His message apparently rang a bell with the servicemen, because they picked it up and spread it all over Europe and the South Pacific. Before war's end, "Kilroy" had been here, there, and everywhere on the long hauls to Berlin and Tokyo . To the troops outbound in those ships, however, he was a complete mystery; all they knew for sure was that someone named Kilroy had "been there first." As a joke, U.S. servicemen began placing the graffiti wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they arrived.


    Kilroy became the U.S. super-GI who had always "already been" wherever GIs went. It became a challenge to place the logo in the most unlikely places imaginable (it is said to be atop Mt. Everest , the Statue of Liberty , the underside of l'Arc De Triomphe, and even scrawled in the dust on the moon.


    As the war went on, the legend grew. Underwater demolition teams routinely sneaked ashore on Japanese-held islands in the Pacific to map the terrain for coming invasions by U.S. troops (and thus, presumably, were the first GI's there). On one occasion, however, they reported seeing enemy troops painting over the Kilroy logo!


    In 1945, an outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill at the Potsdam conference. Its' first occupant was Stalin, who emerged and asked his aide (in Russian), "Who is Kilroy?"


    To help prove his authenticity in 1946, James Kilroy brought along officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters. He won the trolley car, which he gave to his nine children as a Christmas gift and set it up as a playhouse in the Kilroy front yard in Halifax , Massachusetts ..


    So, now you know.
     
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    Good read ,Thank You. Jeff
     
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    Thank you I always wondered about Kilroy. I even drew him on a few construction sites I was on. Your post was very enjoyable reading. Mike.
     
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    Good one! Hope I can remember it.....

    Charlie
     
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    Great stuff! "Kilroy was here" is not forgotten...I make reference to it in one of our comedy routines and it gets a laugh every time! Martinpicker
     
  8. Haskins Bill

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    Thanks for the history lesson. Not to hijack the thread, I have a Kilroy was here story of my own. In Oct 1965 just before I was selected to be a participant in the South East Asia War Games. My family lived just West of Whitehouse Ohio which is a suburb of Toledo ohio. Two F84F's of the 180th Tactical Fighter Squardron stationed at Toledo Express crashed in woods a ways back behind our house. Landing gear would not come all the way down on one and the other fellow tried to nudge it with his wing tip. Should have had 10,000 more feet of air under them I guess. Both of them had to punch out and mot injured much at all. Well me and my buddy also twenty years old decided to have a look. There were all sorts of national guards in the woods 'guarding' the wreck. We sneaked in from behind and looked things over. Well one thing and another I took out my pocket knife and scratched the Kilroy nose and logo on a big piece of wreckage. Often wondered what they thought of it,if it was ever noticed at all. I was in the Army within just a short time. Oct 25 1965 in fact. Figured what the hell are you going to do send me to Vietnam or something? Bill
     
  9. Chango2

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    Thanks AHAB...I recall that the neighbor's mailbox had a "Kilroy" on it, rather vivid, throughout the 50's into the early 60's. Memories...and the mailman of the days back then drove a '36 Ford two door sedan, yes, sedan not a coupe. Maybe a Vicoria model if those were still called that...nostalgia..thanks.
     
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