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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by amboy49, Feb 7, 2009.

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  1. amboy49

    amboy49 Well-Known Member

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    So - a friend is contemplating the purchase of a K32 Four Barrel set he has seen on the internet. I have a K32 with a Super Crown grade four barrel set that was fitted to my gun after I had purchased the gun with a K80 30" choke tube barrel. I purchased the 4 four barrel set from an authorized Krieghoff dealer and they serial numbered the barrels to my receiver.

    As he was looking at my Super Crown grade barrels he commented "On the under side of the barrel where the serial number is located yours has the serial number only." He said the gun he was looking at had not only the serial number but also " Made in W. Germany Krieghoff ULM." So, when I got home I looked at my K80 30" barrel and, sure enough, it says "Made in W. Germany ULM." There is no serial number on the 30" barrel since, I assume, it was fit to the gun at some later date ( prior to my purchase).

    The question is, why don't my Super Crown grade barrels ( 12,20, 28 and .410 )have the Made in W. Germany Krieghoff ULM designation on the bottom of the barrel ? At the time I recall I was informed the four barrel set was "as new" and had never been on a gun.

    Is it possible four barrels were not made by Krieghoff ?

    A mystery - need some help from you Krieghoff experts !

    Noel
     
  2. g7777777

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    I have seen earlier barrels with no markings other than numbers on the bottom of mono block and proof marks

    what does it say on the barrel itself? on the left side of the barrel?

    who says they are super crown barrels ? actually there is no such thing but that is a long discussion-- simply stated a K32 super crown was not a factory grade.

    often people call something with engraving super crown K32

    Now a factory K80 super crown is something else-- They actually marked a handful of the early guns with super crown on the receiver -- those have some value and they were ordered that way- special order

    I dont think there is any additional value in something that was part of set engraved as a super crown.

    regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    The barrels were advertised as Super Crown when sold.

    The barrels themselves have a gold gauge number on the top of the rib of each barrel. The barrel hanger is engraved - no gold. The chamber end of the barrels are engraved AND have a gold wire ribbon fillegree as well.

    Sorry, not enough computer skills to post some pictures.

    Regardless, it does seem odd there is no designation that the barrels were "made in Germany ULB" designation.

    I've seen other barrel sets that do have engraving - but none with the gold ribbon.
     
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    miketmx Well-Known Member

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    The link above shows some of the history of Kreighoff guns.

    "Pat: The reason you have a barrel marked "Shotguns of Ulm" was not a patent problem as I recall but a marketing one. Hal DuPont had a lock on the marketing of Krieghoff shotguns sold in the U.S. My guess is that Dieter Krieghoff said "O.K., I'll just sell the same thing without using the Krieghoff name" to get around the exclusivity problem and therfore the Shotguns of Ulm name was used. I purchased a new barrel during the cross over for either $700 or $800 with the same markings that fit a San Remo K-32. Those were the good old days! Eric Schmidt"
     
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