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Just set up my new Spolar

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Randy P, Apr 3, 2012.

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  1. Randy P

    Randy P Member

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    Received my new Spolar yesterday and set it up and used it today...WOW impressive, with the hydrulic unit I was able to pump out 500 shells in 1/2 an hour not bad for the first time!!! Very smooth and trouble free.
     
  2. straightshooter1

    straightshooter1 Well-Known Member TS Supporters

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    I must say that is very impressive (500 rounds) for just getting the machine. I used mine manually for about two or three weeks before ever hooking up the hydraulic. It was my first hydraulic and I wanted to make sure I understood all the nuances, if any, of the Spolar before I moved forward.

    Was that your first hydraulic machine, or had you used another in the past?

    Either way, I think the Spolar is the best of the machines. I have two friends with P-Ws, new or near new and both have had a bit of problems with keeping them running. One is very experienced, but has had his back to the factory once. I tried to get him to call Jim or Whiz, but you know what they say about leading a horse to water....

    No knock on P-W, just very happy with my Spolar and expect you will be as well.

    Bob
     
  3. Border Bandit

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    Way to go, Randy! I can't wait to see it. Careful where you put your fingers....grin

    BTW on trap two, last night? Did you ever find that target it sent towards Carlisle? I was on post 5 when it took off..too bad it wasn't Red...

    best...mike & barb
     
  4. Randy P

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    Straightshooter1, I have used progressives since 1980. This is the first Hydraulic I have used, but I watched the video and read all the material and that really did help. It's just like any progressive, once you get the rhythm you can fly. The spolar also holds 400 primers, 25lbs of shot and 1 lb of powder so you can keep loading. The electric tapper on the primer tray also speeds up the process as you don't have to slow down to tap the primers into the chute. You just keep a shell in 1 hand a wad in the other hand and keep on pushing the peddle. I talked to the Carters about a shell feeder and they advised it may slow you down and after loading with the Spolar I agree as you can be putting a shell in the loader as it lifts.

    Thanks Mike, let me know when you have time to stop and take a look. That Carlisle bird was one I punched holes in just for you...Wait till you see some of the doubles I have in store for you, lol...
     
  5. straightshooter1

    straightshooter1 Well-Known Member TS Supporters

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    I agree with you on the shell feeder. It seems it would slow me down. I have the empty in the position before the machine reaches the top.

    But, I am willing to wait and see if any posters here buy the shell feeder P-W is making for the Spolar and listen to their opinions. If it made it easier, I might be a customer as long as it doesn't slow me down. $450 is a bit much for me to experiment with, so I prefer to let someone else test it.

    I don't mean to say I load for speed and Carter says to pause at the top for half a second to make sure all the shot and powder has dropped. That's what I do and I have been very satisfied.

    Creeker sure knows what he is talking about with the One-Shot Dry Lube (there are two One-Shots-one is to lube metallic cartridge cases, don't get it). It cleans and lubes really well.

    Bob
     
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    Great pictures you Luddites
     
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    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    OK, yo are in love with your new loader... I get that... But tell me why Spolar can do all these things like shell hoppers and hydraulics and not easily make an automatic wad insertion machine and all you would have to do is stomp on the pedal? Better yet, why would it be so hard to make a truly automatic machine that all you have to do is fill the hoppers and/or insert a strip of wads that pulls one off every time from a column of wads? Simple stuff for design engineers. The wad thingy could easily be produced for $500. Adn the first wad company that makes their wads in an attached column will corner the market. For a while anyway.

    You Spolar guys are a big "huh?" for me. You feed your own egos and want us to fawn all over your success in life and loading.

    And you can't even post a damn picture.
     
  8. Didreckson

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    Here you go MIA...waiting for a call back on store alarm going off so nothing to do right now.

    Spolar is a great loader...PW is a great loader...my Mec is a great loader. Like a Lexus, Spolar is a precision machine that just gives you great satisfaction.

    And regardless of which loader you choose, that 1 Shot stuff is the bomb cleaning the primer area, primer tray. Just got a whole case of it...can't be without it.

    Excuse the fuzzy photo...it was my IPhone, not the Canon.


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  9. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    Wow! Waht a great picture! Look at that stool! And REAL PROOF that Spolar churns out big numbers! Even his finished shell bin is on casters! Yikes! Did, my man, you done good.

    That water jug to the right of the unit... Is that the fabled "shell hopper"?

    Any one have a report on how Dixie is repairing from her horse incident? Nice lady. She has class and stands tall. I like her a lot.
     
  10. shot410ga

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    500 shells in 1/2 hour? Yea, right......
     
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    I would love to have a Spolar ( they say they are the best?) but my PW P2000 works like a champ and I aint no automatic guy so the hydraulic ones scare me. I want to pull the handle and be able to see that everything is ok each time I do.Thats what happens when you get old
     
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    "500 shells in 1/2 hour? Yea, right...... "


    How many do you get per half hour in your Spolar ?

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    I guess I have mis-understood the meaning for the auto-hull feeder. I always thought it was for making reloading easier, not for speed.

    Didreckson......nice setup...I also use the dog food dispenser for wads..I really think it was built for wads and someone put the wrong label on it. lol
     
  14. Didreckson

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    likes-to-shoot has it right, it is a dog food dispenser. Same as a water device for pets but with the large opening at the bottom. Works great, and was easy to build.

    As for speed, I guess you could get 500 in a half hour, but I have to ask why? I load so I have great looking shells, only use West Coast shot, Winchester primers, Nitro hulls, and either Clays or 700X for standard loads.

    I honestly get ........well I don't know, it really does not matter. I enjoy the process and make sure everything is going correctly. I measure shot and powder drops on a regular basis. I don't see 500 in a half hour being as accurate or clean as I require, may work for someone else fine.
     
  15. Hammer1

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    I see no difference in the quality of my loads based on the speed at which I operate the machine.

    I operate it at a speed which is comfortable and safe for continuous operation and producing safe loaded shells on the given day that I am loading.

    Five-hundred per half-hour is not a problem for me, but my normal rate may be closer to 400 per half-hour.

    Boxing the finished shells takes about the same time as loading them. Usually have someone else doing that while I load.

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  16. guinner16

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    I have done just over 500 in an hour manually if I set everything up before hand and have it planned out. I could do close to 600 if I could get the darn primers to drop every single time without getting hung up on the shoot. 600 in an hour with everything working exactly correct, and planning ahead, would still mean that I am really moving, but its possible. 500 in a half hour with the hydro sounds a bit high but it could be done. Of course it could have been 480 rounds in 34 minutes which is possible, and the numbers were rounded up/down. If you can do 500 rounds in 30 minutes, on the first try out of the box, then I need to talk to my wife. If thats the case I am ordering one right away. 10 hours of loading and I can be done for the year.
     
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    I can do 18 per minute when I timed myself. Sure wouldn't keep that up for an hour tho.

    I believe the MAX cycle rate for the hydro would be no more than 20 per minute.
     
  18. Hammer1

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    Think the Spolar folks say the production rate with the hydraulics is one shell every 3.5 seconds.

    If my arithmetic is correct... That is a production rate of 17.1 per minute or 514 per half-hour or 1,028 per hour.

    Helps if someone is helping occasionally with keeping the empty hulls, wads, and primers handy and the powder and shot hoppers full.

    We have children for a reason.

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  19. Didreckson

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    I do miss my "box boy" and "refill specialist". One was just assigned to Seal Team 7 down in San Diego, other is still a college student getting a masters in Information Technology.

    When they were growing up I used a Mec Grabber, and my kids were great helpers. I did not have to box or worry about refilling. I have some terrific memories of those loading sessions. Of course, we probably loaded a 100 an hour..who knows, and it matters not.

    guinner16, I have to believe the primer drop is speed related? Either the machine is vibrating on a surface not as stable as necessary, or short stroking? Or just going so fast it can't drop in straight.

    That is the advantage of being old and slow...I can't remember the last time I had a primer issue on either of my Spolar's..one is ED, one is hydraulic.
     
  20. dverna

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    No way I can get 1000 shells per hour on either the PW (electric drive) or the Spolar Hydraulic). I sure would like to see a video.

    I normally load 700-2000 at a sitting but have loaded 4000+ at one time. I must be challenged.

    Don Verna
     
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