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Joel Etchen's 687 Silver Pigeon II

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by AveragEd, Mar 12, 2010.

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  1. AveragEd

    AveragEd Well-Known Member

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    My son and I each have one - Jason's is a top single combo from Joel's initial order of them in 2005 while mine is an unsingle combo from 2008. I shot Krieghoffs for 18 years and when I bought Jason's gun and shot it a little, I decided that one of them would be my next trap combo.

    If you go to Joel's website and then to the page where these guns are listed, you'll find a link to one or both of the articles I wrote about them for Shotgun Sports Magazine. I believe they are the best "bang for the buck" gun you can buy - they feel very comfortable and balanced in your hands, shoot well, seem to have low felt recoil for most people, are durable and have good looks. Upgraded "EELL" wood is only something like $400 extra and is Turkish Walnut. My only critisisms are that the raised portion of the stock's comb is longer than it has to be and makes it difficult to shorten the stock a lot and that the oil finish that Beretta uses hides a lot of the wood's figure and color.

    If you'd like some photos of three of those guns taken out in the real world, I can send you some.

    Ed
     
  2. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

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    I man I shoot league with bought one about a year ago. He really likes it. Very nice looking and of course it is dependable. It makes my Gold E look pretty plain.
     
  3. jimrich60

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    I bought one of Joel Etchens Trap Combos a couple of years ago, and I have to say that in my opinion, it is the best trap combo ,for the money, on the market. The 687 receiver is internally identical to the 682, except the trigger is not adjustable (although you can fit a 682 adjustable trigger easily for under a $100). The Etchen hybrids use 682E barrels, and they are great. I also like the external of the 687 receiver much better, with its very nice engraving. Just looks more classic than the 682. Joel Etchen also specifies slightly different stock dimensions from the standard Beretta stock dimensions, particularly in the comb drop, which I think fit American shooters much better on the whole, than Beretta's own stocks. Bought my at the Grand American, where JEG has a shop, but you can get them through JEGs web site also. Like Averaged's reviews say, this is a great trap gun and available at reasonable prices.

    Jim R
     
  4. 4xFergi

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    I use to shoot a Kreighoff and bought a Beretta 687 a little over a year ago and can honestly say I would never shoot anything else. Can not say enough on how good this gun is. If you decide to buy one, I'm sure you will love it.
     
  5. dcb_wvu

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    Saw two of them last night at West Penn; one was a 2009 model the other a 2010 purchased last week. Very pretty guns and both gentlemen did quite well with them.
     
  6. Avaldes

    Avaldes Well-Known Member

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    I really liked mine. It is one of those guns that I still miss today. I went to a Perazzi and sold the Beretta because it was sitting in the safe unused for a long time.

    Best bang for the buck without a doubt. I really like the look of the engraved silver receiver. The barrels also shot REALLY nice. I spent a lot of time on the pattern board with it and it performed exceptionally well.
     
  7. AveragEd

    AveragEd Well-Known Member

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    I received some P.M.s asking for photos so here is one of three guns, each with a different barrel. The first two have standard wood while the bottom one has the EELL upgrade, which also includes 30-LPI checkering.

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    This one is of my gun with Beretta's current oil finish and my son's, which has standard wood with Beretta's older glossy oil finish.

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    Finally, this a shot of my stock after being refinished with glossy oil.

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    If anyone wants more, let me know.

    Ed
     
  8. Tony Fortino

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    Mine got me first team All American. But they kick yah pretty good.
     
  9. Denniswalleye

    Denniswalleye TS Member

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    I you are looking at that 687 silver pigeon comb at Joel Etchen's. Email me thats was my gun. I'am not 100% sure but 95%. Dennis Malinowski A phone # would be nice if you want to talk about it
     
  10. JohnR

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    I have one that I love, had it for 2 years now and about 15k rounds thru it with no problems what so ever. I shoot both the unsingle and the o/u barrels well. I think the ones Joel is getting in for 2010 have the 682 adjustable trigger. JohnR


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  11. dcb_wvu

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    Take that oil finish off and those would be just gorgeous, IMHO. Pure Gun Porn, as my wife calls it.
     
  12. goose2

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    I purchased one from JE 2 years ago. I liked it quite a bit. I sold it for a CG magnus combo which I liked better. Then I sold the CG for a Kolar Max T/A combo which is in a league of its own. For the money the Beretta cant be beat but for someone to say they are is good as a K or P gun must be on crack to say the least. I would defiantly rate them head and heels above a Browning and a SKB.
    The folks at JE are top notch and you will not find a smoother transaction. My Max T/A also come from them.
     
  13. SilverShooter

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    My wife gave me a JE combo 34/32 last year for my b-day. I refinished the wood with one coat of tru-oil and it is really beautiful -- but it was apparently not for me.

    I was terribley inconsistent at singles with it. One day I'd shoot 90+, the next day 80 or less. Tried every adjustment possible but only got consistent when I added a Gracoil LOP recoil reducer with adjustable butte plate, and increased the pitch significantly to about 6%. Even after 6 months, I never topped 95.

    Then I got a Guerini trap combo cause of the adjustable o/u barrel. I am very consistant at singles (lots of 95+s) and HDC (low 90s). The 697 was cleaned thoroughly, oiled, put in storage, and will be a part of my son's inheritance. Did I say it was really beautiful?
     
  14. kraiza

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    My wife shoot a JE 687 combo unsingle with EELL wood. She like it alot. I also have a 682 Gold E combo unsingle. The EELL wood make the JE 687 stand out.
    Both guns are low recoils and good shooter.
     
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    acss Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    my duaghter had a softtouch put on her 687--and had cole's do a trigger job --we both shoot it pretty well!
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  16. Old Cowboy

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    I've been shooting one of the 34/32 unsingle combo's for about three years......like it so much I purchased another 32" O/U (from a combo that'd lost it's single barrel) for a spare.

    John C. Saubak
     
  17. Frank C

    Frank C Well-Known Member

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    another yea vote here!
     
  18. DelarockX

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    The more I look at Beretta guns, the more I like them. I prefer a gun with less decorative engraving. If I was to go with a Beretta, what would be the right gun for me?

    Oh PS... while we're on the Beretta topic. Why are DT10's so much more expensive than the 68x guns?
     
  19. acss

    acss Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    way heavier gun- differant locking system--but mostly due to drop out trigger similiar to a P gun
     
  20. coveybuster

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    I have been shooting a JEG Special for a year now and love it. I had a couple of things done to make mine even nicer.

    I bought it before the adjustable comb was cut. I am short and Beretta's are way too long for me. I am also a recoil wuss and like the adjustable gracoil system, so it was necessary to cut the stock off a considerable amount. The butt end of the stock was reshaped to give it the factory Monte Carlo look, and then the comb was cut. The gracoil was installed with the thinnest Kickeez pad available. Doing this makes the gracoil look less like an ugly appendage.

    The wood on these guns is nice. The factory finish is less than nice. Here is a after and before comparison of my gun.

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