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Joe Biden's kid loses gun battle in Deleware

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by pyrdek, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. pyrdek

    pyrdek Well-Known Member

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    Joe Biden

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    It looks likes phone messages from gun owners got to the pols!

    Del. Senate deals stunning defeat to gun bill

    DOVER, Del. (AP) -- A bill that would have expanded the ability of Delaware authorities to prohibit people with mental health issues from having guns was defeated Thursday in the state Senate even after being revised to placate the National Rifle Association and other critics.

    Senators voted 13-to-6 Thursday to reject the measure, which was pushed by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden. His father, Vice President Joe Biden, has been spearheading the administration's efforts to expand background checks and pass other gun restrictions since the mass shooting last December at a Connecticut elementary school that left 26 dead.

    The Delaware legislation had cleared the House with only one dissenting vote.

    "I'm very disappointed. This was a commonsense piece of legislation," Beau Biden said. "... I can't explain what happened today in the state Senate."

    The bill had been pulled from the Senate agenda Tuesday, but Rep. Michael Barbieri, the chief sponsor, said he was unaware of any problems prior to Thursday's Senate vote.

    "I'm pretty shocked, especially since we compromised on our side" said Barbieri, D-Newark. "I thought we had appeased everybody, including the NRA."

    After successfully pushing for an amendment to raise the standard of proof for taking away someone's guns, the NRA took a neutral stance on the bill, neither endorsing nor opposing it. The NRA had said it would oppose the bill unless the standard of proof for declaring a person dangerous was changed from "a preponderance of evidence" as initially written, to "clear and convincing evidence."

    "We no longer consider the bill a significant threat to law-abiding gun owners," NRA lobbyist Shannon Alford told the Senate.

    But lawmakers said they received several calls in opposition to the bill just prior to the vote.

    "Today, our phones were flooding," said Senate sponsor Margaret Rose Henry, a Wilmington Democrat. "... It was a grassroots effort at the last minute that really threw things off."

    The bill would have required mental health providers, including licensed school counselors, to call police if they believed a person posed a danger to himself or others. Police would investigate and would refer the case to the attorney general's office if they believed the person shouldn't have access to a gun.

    The attorney general's office could then ask a judge to prohibit the person from buying or possessing a gun. The judge also could order the seizure of any guns that the person owns.

    But some critics feared the legislation would infringe on the rights of law-abiding citizens to possess firearms and make it difficult for them to get their guns returned. Some lawmakers also expressed concern that the legislation could discourage people from seeking mental health treatment for fear that their firearms could be seized.

    "I think it went beyond what was correct in being able to confiscate someone's guns," said Senate Minority Leader Gary Simpson, R-Milford.

    Beau Biden described the bill as a direct response to mass shootings such as the movie theater massacre in Aurora, Colo. The suspect in that shooting, which left 12 people dead and 70 injured, was being seen by a psychiatrist before the attack.

    Said Biden: "I'm not giving up on this."
     
  2. trapperwads

    trapperwads Well-Known Member

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    So punish the many for the actions of one? Get used to it Biden. You and your ilk are in for many more disappointments. How about the recent Supreme Court decision on voting rights for the states? This country is beginning to see through the spin tactics and falsehoods of your mentally challenged liberal mindset.
     
  3. timberfaller

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    The only common sense a liberal know of is out of the Karl Marx play book!

    Beau should go talk to his old man and explain to him not to tell his wife to break the law when it comes to chasing off a intruder!!!

    But then birds of a feather flock together!!
     
  4. slickhead

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    Wonder if Beau Biden is as stupid as his dad? His Name sounds like 60,s rock group
     
  5. pyrdek

    pyrdek Well-Known Member

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    Joe Biden

    From: Yahoo News Click Here

    It looks likes phone messages from gun owners got to the pols!

    Del. Senate deals stunning defeat to gun bill

    DOVER, Del. (AP) -- A bill that would have expanded the ability of Delaware authorities to prohibit people with mental health issues from having guns was defeated Thursday in the state Senate even after being revised to placate the National Rifle Association and other critics.

    Senators voted 13-to-6 Thursday to reject the measure, which was pushed by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden. His father, Vice President Joe Biden, has been spearheading the administration's efforts to expand background checks and pass other gun restrictions since the mass shooting last December at a Connecticut elementary school that left 26 dead.

    The Delaware legislation had cleared the House with only one dissenting vote.

    "I'm very disappointed. This was a commonsense piece of legislation," Beau Biden said. "... I can't explain what happened today in the state Senate."

    The bill had been pulled from the Senate agenda Tuesday, but Rep. Michael Barbieri, the chief sponsor, said he was unaware of any problems prior to Thursday's Senate vote.

    "I'm pretty shocked, especially since we compromised on our side" said Barbieri, D-Newark. "I thought we had appeased everybody, including the NRA."

    After successfully pushing for an amendment to raise the standard of proof for taking away someone's guns, the NRA took a neutral stance on the bill, neither endorsing nor opposing it. The NRA had said it would oppose the bill unless the standard of proof for declaring a person dangerous was changed from "a preponderance of evidence" as initially written, to "clear and convincing evidence."

    "We no longer consider the bill a significant threat to law-abiding gun owners," NRA lobbyist Shannon Alford told the Senate.

    But lawmakers said they received several calls in opposition to the bill just prior to the vote.

    "Today, our phones were flooding," said Senate sponsor Margaret Rose Henry, a Wilmington Democrat. "... It was a grassroots effort at the last minute that really threw things off."

    The bill would have required mental health providers, including licensed school counselors, to call police if they believed a person posed a danger to himself or others. Police would investigate and would refer the case to the attorney general's office if they believed the person shouldn't have access to a gun.

    The attorney general's office could then ask a judge to prohibit the person from buying or possessing a gun. The judge also could order the seizure of any guns that the person owns.

    But some critics feared the legislation would infringe on the rights of law-abiding citizens to possess firearms and make it difficult for them to get their guns returned. Some lawmakers also expressed concern that the legislation could discourage people from seeking mental health treatment for fear that their firearms could be seized.

    "I think it went beyond what was correct in being able to confiscate someone's guns," said Senate Minority Leader Gary Simpson, R-Milford.

    Beau Biden described the bill as a direct response to mass shootings such as the movie theater massacre in Aurora, Colo. The suspect in that shooting, which left 12 people dead and 70 injured, was being seen by a psychiatrist before the attack.

    Said Biden: "I'm not giving up on this."
     
  6. trapperwads

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    So punish the many for the actions of one? Get used to it Biden. You and your ilk are in for many more disappointments. How about the recent Supreme Court decision on voting rights for the states? This country is beginning to see through the spin tactics and falsehoods of your mentally challenged liberal mindset.
     
  7. timberfaller

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    The only common sense a liberal know of is out of the Karl Marx play book!

    Beau should go talk to his old man and explain to him not to tell his wife to break the law when it comes to chasing off a intruder!!!

    But then birds of a feather flock together!!
     
  8. slickhead

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    Wonder if Beau Biden is as stupid as his dad? His Name sounds like 60,s rock group
     
  9. grnberetcj

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    He's a mental midget...but the dumbass democraps in the northern part of Delaware keep voting the fools into office...

    Curt
     
  10. Setterman

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    Lets see if it makes the main stream news tonight.
     
  11. CharlieAMA

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    Boo Hoo. Sniffle, sniffle. Big Joe and Big Beau didn't get their way. Boo Hoo.
     
  12. Big Al 29

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    "the dumbass democraps in the northern part of Delaware keep voting the fools into office."

    Wilmington
     
  13. schwabby

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    I agree. All mentally deficient people should not only be allowed, they should be required to own firearms. makes sense to me. Boy, that Biden guy is really nuts.
     
  14. Brian in Oregon

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    It's disturbing that the NRA backed off and took a "neutral" stance. The grassroots orgs and individual gun owners had to press this home. Because this involved Biden Junior, all the stops should have been pulled out to repudiate another anti-gun scheme. We need to steamroller these anti-gun scum in 2014.
     
  15. GunDr

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    The same Beau Biden...

    • Delaware attorney general strips county sheriffs of arrest powers

    By Pat Shannan

    Sussex County, Delaware Sheriff Jeff Christopher, when he was elected to the office in 2010, thought he was handpicked by the people to represent them as the highest-ranking law officer in the county. Instead, he has found himself in the middle of a fight for the future of American law enforcement as a result of a nationwide effort to abolish the sheriff’s office altogether.


    It is one more example of federal and state governments ignoring the will of the people as well state laws. In the case of Delaware, the state’s own constitution stipulates that the office of the sheriff is a constitutionally created position just like the secretary of state and the attorney general. Delaware’s Constitution states: “The sheriffs shall be conservators of the peace within the counties . . . in which they reside.”

    This time it is Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, son of Vice President Joe Biden, sending out mandates to commissioners informing them that their sheriffs no longer have arrest powers. In an opinion released February 24, State Solicitor L.W. Lewis said that neither the state nor the common law grants arrest powers to the county sheriffs.
     
  16. grnberetcj

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    Christopher is a jerk and should have been locked up. Nothing more than a wannabe with visions of grandeur.

    Biden as the Attorney General is a true "Post Turtle"...

    Curt
     
  17. oskerspap12

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    Whats with these titles(8 shot in Brooklyn)........I thought Bidens kid got killed in a gun battle.............go figure.

    D.P.Reynolds
     
  18. trapperwads

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    If Biden and the Solicitor have done something unconstitutional according to the state constitution the sheriff should arrest, take them away in handcuffs and lock them up to show them the sheriff does have the power to arrest. ed nichols