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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by steve mainus, Aug 5, 2012.

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  1. steve mainus

    steve mainus Active Member

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    I was watching the highlites of the women's finals. The men's qualifying is on now. Will catch it later. I have a few questions about this style of trapshooting. In no particular order. Do they always: wear muffs,shoot an over/under, shoot one per post then move, have six on the line, have a large Austrian dude miss a lot?

    Thank you in advance.
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    no,yes,yes,yes,no
  3. steve mainus

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    Is the over/under just the Europeans, or Americans also?
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    You get two shots per target in bunker trap. An O/U seems like a good idea to shoot the game with. HMB
  5. goatskin

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    Because of all the movement between stations, with shells in the gun (but out of battery) ISSF rules make it difficult - not impossible - to shoot an auto. They are not banned.

    Anybody shooting a SxS or pump is doing it for S & G.

    An Italian O/U is the proper tool for the job for serious shooters.

    Bob
  6. mholting

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    if 2 shots are allowed, none of the shooters used a second shot when they missed the target. what i observed they only loaded one shell. how come?????
  7. goatskin

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    Finals are one-shot, only. Prelims are 2.
  8. roger8918

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    The only thing ATA Trap and International Trap have in common is they both are shot with shotguns.....;)
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    Porting -?
    Chokes- Yes
    Release Triggers- not no, but Hell no.
  10. Baber

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    Porting is allowed provided its done by the original manufacturer. Choke tube are allowed. RT. no way


    T
  11. Chichay

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    Shooters are abreast in a straight line, not curved as in ATA. Shooter #6 is behind shooter #1. After firing one shot, shooter moves to the next position after shooter there has fired, NOT BEFORE. Exception is shooter #5, who after firing, opens his shotgun, UNLOADS, then proceeds to position #1 if unoccupied, or position #6 if position #1 is still occupied. Also do not move to position #1 even if unoccupied if position #2 is shooting. In that case, wait at position #6. Movement from position #5 without unloading is grounds for disqualification for violation of safety rules. Movement between positions #1-#4 requires an open action, although it is unclear to me if chambers have to be empty, as definitely the case of movement from position #5. Horn sounding after a shooter fires indicates a miss. You'll get used to hearing that horn.
  12. Baber

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    Have no idea when or if Perazzi ori Beratta offer porting. That's the definition in the rules. How people comply is unknown. Porting for 7/8 oz loads is really pointless. The ISSF shotgun committee considered requiring the barrel to be rep roofed after porting!

    Chichsy... You can walk from station to tation with a loaded open gun. The long walk from 5 to 1 the gun must be empty. Also you can not close your gun till its your turn to fire.

    Tom
  13. jim brown

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    10 meters ain't 16 yards.


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  14. Baber

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    The above post is so full of errors I asked the poster to remove it.

    Tom
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    I though the same thing, too many errors to correct. Bunker trap is shot from 15 meters, a little bit more than 16 yards.

    5 Stand Dan
  16. eightbore

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    It would be interesting if you would identify which post is so full of errors, and maybe give us the correct information.
  17. Baber

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    It's the ones from eddiefromoverlook
  18. pufftarget

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    The poster is eddiefromoverlook. The target speed is approx. 1-1/2 times that of ATA targets. If you are interested in the details of bunker an excellent site is shootingbunker.com. Bill Bartels gives an excellent description. Also, go to usashooting.org and the rule book describes details for trap installation,etc. and includes the nine settings for each of the machines; height, angle, and distance.
  19. erock_germany

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    Yep, some significant errors in that post. Not 90 MPH for one...

    Ported barrels are allowed and the rules are in ISSF book. AFAIK it does not need to be a factory job but does have to be proofed according to CIP.

    Not many guys shooting ported barrels since the loss of pressure etc. is a disadvantage when shooting only 24 grams but it is not unseen. Perazzi will port. Not sure on Beretta.

    Due to the nature of the second shot, it is an advantage to have a tighter choke than on the first so an semi auto has a disadvantage. Have seen one guy shooting a Beretta break open semi auto (wierd gun) and one guy shooting an 1100 but these guys were not serious competitors.

    Gun laws are also tight in Europe. In Germany a semi auto is not seen as a trap gun and we can not get them on our permits so that kills it anyway...
  20. slide action

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    The shells in Bunker are 24 grams which is just a pinch under 7/8 oz. Unlike ATA the shot may be plated usually nickle.The shells are really cooking(there is no "speed limit" in Bunker ammo) and some shells are really fast! Autos are so rare they are practialy non existant! In parts of Europe they must be modified to limit them to two shells. Most people wouldn't want to go through the hassle of all of that. Autos ARE "allowed" in Bunker in the rules, and when I shot Bunker for awhile there were a very small few who used them. I shot my way to "A" class in bunker with an 1100, but wouldn't try using one if I was to ever go back to the game! As mentioned above there are 6 shooters on the field in constant rotation moving stations after each shot. The game is shot from 15 meters meters which equating to roughly 17 yds. The 15 traps in the bunker(3 per station) are programed by computer so nobody can know which target they will get. Angles are much wider and height is unknown. Some are high screamers and some are "worm burners"! There is a main scorer and two flankers which act as referees. A "miss" is noted by a horn and red flags. There are two shots allowed for bunker,but, in the final shoot offs only one shell is used. The targets are much harder to withstand the extra spring pressure that hurl them up to 70 meters! A lot of ATA shooters talk trash about Bunker shooters,but, the fact is a lot of hot shot ATA shooters have tried the game and were humbled by it. It is hard to go back and forth from Bunker to ATA. It is the probably the most difficult of the shotgun disiplines. Release triggers are defiantly a NO NO!!! Those that are serious Bunker shooters much train hard and long to be competitive in the game!
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