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Isn't it amazing just how much the DEMS love us...

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by bigdogtx, Sep 26, 2009.

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Better build some extra prisons,,,,just how will the poor pay the $25,000 fine, if they can't pay the premiums,,,,are these people imbeciles or what????

    Link is too long: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/26/baucus-mandate-penalty-lead-prison-congressional-analysts-say/?test=health


    Under the health care bill being considered in the Senate Finance Committee, Americans who fail to pay a penalty for not buying insurance could be charged up to $25,000 by the Internal Revenue Service or face up to a year in jail, according to congressional analysts.

    That's just one of the concerns Republicans say the Democratic-run Congress is ignoring in the rush to pass legislation to overhaul the nation's health care system.

    "The American people expect us to get this right and to do it in an open, honest and bipartisan debate. That's what they deserve," said Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., in his party's radio and Internet address Saturday. "But that's not what they're getting from the Democrats on Capitol Hill."

    The Senate Finance Committee is the last of five committees to take up health care legislation, which tops President Obama's domestic agenda.

    The committee chairman, Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., negotiated with top Republicans for weeks before talks broke down. Baucus' bill leaves out a primary demand of many Democrats -- a government insurance option -- and it has a lower price tag than other Democratic proposals.

    But the legislation includes an individual mandate penalty that could go as high as $1,900. Thomas Barthold, chief of staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation, told senators that the IRS could take legal action against those who fail to pay the mandate penalty.

    In a handwritten note to Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., Barthold said violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty.

    Isakson and other Republicans say the Baucus bill is too costly and would require too much government intrusion into the health care system. Only one Republican, Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, appears to be considering supporting it.

    At its core, the bill is designed to expand health insurance coverage to millions of people who lack it, employing a new system of federal subsidies for lower-income individuals and families and establishing an insurance exchange in which coverage would have federally guaranteed benefits.

    Insurance companies would be prohibited from refusing to sell insurance based on a person's health history, and limits would be imposed on higher premiums based on age.
     
  2. birdogs

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    Hey, don't be blaming the DEMS. If Olympia Snow signs on it will make this a bi-partisan bill, won't it? Then you can blame the Republicans too. It is probably Bush's fault anyway!
     
  3. timberfaller

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    Hey the Repubs are trying, they have offered over 800 amendments mostly to do with tort reform and guess what? the Dems have shot everyone DOWN! WHY?

    Because they are not interested in being for the average American or America and simply because, they have the votes!
     
  4. halfmile

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    Anyopn with more than the inellect of a mushroom who has studied ( if only a little) this mess knows tort reform will not happen.

    And the need for it is why the whole mess was created in the first place.


    When a doctor has to pay 200 thousand dollars a year for malpractice insurance it ain't the tooth fairy that ponies up.

    And let's not forget the unnecessary work that is done in order to CYA.

    The same system that gave a dumb female 7 million for spilling hot (yes, HOt, didn't you know?) is responsible for the out of control health costs.

    And if you think all the lawyers in Washington want to fix this, hold on, the tooth fairy will be along in a little while.

    HM
     
  5. Model Number 12

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    Halfmile, it's the Easter Bunny that's working on this, the tooth fairy is now working at GM. Maybe Santa Claus will bring us at miracle to help us out of this mess.
     
  6. Dahaub

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    Big Puppy, what kind of proposals have the republicans put together for reform? Timberfaller I saw a senator from Iowa who said the repubs had proposed 200 admendments and 160 were used and still no republicans voted for the bill. Why is that? What have the republicans done for the country in the past 8 years in legislation beside unravel the financial system and bankrupt the country? You cheerleaders can surely cut and paste me some good examples of what they have done for the common good of the country.

    ps did I tell you about the last election? Dan:)
     
  7. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    Dumblehub;


    Your people have controlled the national check book since 2006. Comprehend?? Blame your people.

    Further more, your people and your hero, socialist hussein, are responsible for creating a national dept that may not be manageable.


    Your people, in particular Barney Frank, are responsible for unraveling the financial system. Do the research, if you are capable.



    And now comes the best part, dumblehub, where I tell you about the last election;

    "Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 30% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10". (It's getting worse).



    "Only 16% Like The Job Congress Is Doing"

    Hussein is a failure. Liberal congress is a failure, having the distinction of being the least admired profession. It's plain to see why you are a dumocrap, dumblehub...
     
  8. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    Here, dummy, is some entertainment for your feeble mind (between elections). No doubt the socialist rag you buy, cut the first two panels of the original, so you wouldn't start crying.

    To think you morons were calling dumb old George a nazi, when he wasn't even trying to pull a tenth of this BS. Tell us all about that election. You can start with 2000 if you'd like. LOL

    Is it true that you don't "cut and paste" because you won't stop eating the paste?
     
  9. bigdogtx

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    dannyboy,,,,here are a couple: Portability so that when you change jobs you don't have to give up your coverage.....The ability to purchase across state lines, which will allow a cheaper cost,,,,MSA's (Medical Savings Accounts) where you as an individual can put money TAX FREE into an account that if you don't have to use it for healthcare, YOU GET TO _KEEP_ IT,,,,Oh crap, we cant have that, people that WORK keeping some of THEIR money,,,,but dannyboy don't like that and neither do the libs in washington....but you don't/can't admit that....you still haven't told me why you hate children!!!!

    snowe is a RINO

    btw,,,,dannyboy,,,,I did NOT see any republicans want to put citizens in jail or fine them $25,000, did you???? Don't want to address that one do you....
     
  10. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    More liberal love. Todays headlines;

    "Liberals Seek Health Care Access for Illegals"

    Open up your wallet, dumblehub. It's time for YOU to pay YOUR fiddler.
     
  11. highflyer

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    It is now clear to anybody with a brain that Obama is either in over his head or is intentionally destroying our country. Either way we are all screwed.
     
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