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Is this a 3 dram load?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by xringjim, Aug 30, 2012.

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  1. xringjim

    xringjim TS Member

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    Could one of you tell me if this load exceeds 3 drams? Using a gun club shell with a chedditte primer, a cb1100 1 ounce wad and 22 grains of Green Dot. Close as I can figure it is going 1270fps with maybe 10,000 of pressure. Thanks, Jim
     
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    Federal 1 oz @ 1290 f.p.s. say they are 3 1/4 dram. Scott
     
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    I would agree with Scott Johnson. That load is scooting right along......

    Mike
     
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    All the brands I've seen have shown 3 dram to be 1200 fps.
     
  5. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    Scroll down a ways on the link above for a chart of dram equiv for each gauge.

    sissy
     
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    If you look at the SAAMI (Small Arms and Amminitation Manufacturing Association) and ANSI (American National Standards Institute) specifications (can be found in publication - ANSI/SAAMI Shotshell | Z.299.2 1992) - you will find that the specifications for 12 gauge – 2 ¾ inch shotshell with a 1 1/8 ounce payload and loaded to a 3 dram equivalent will have a velocity of 1200 feet per second with a tolerance of +/- 90 feet per second. Thus the reason the ATA rule book simply states the maximum velocity being 1290 fps rather than using the old designation of “3-dram load”. So, a 3-dram, 2 ¾ inch 12 gauge loaded with 1 1/8 ounce of shot (within SAAMI Voluntary Preformance Standards for payload variation - which for target loads is from. +3% to – 5% in weight) can have a velocity range between 1110 fps and 1290 fps and average 1200 fps. So the load mentioned by xringjim could be a legal 3 dram shell if the velocity of any shell did not exceed 1290 pfs.
     
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    Isn't a higher speed allowed by ATA for ounce loads?

    Bob
     
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    1325 fps is the allowable maximum 1 ounce load and 1290 fps for 1-1/8 per my 2006 ATA rules and by laws. Has this changed?

    Surfer
     
  9. Jawhawker

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    You have approx. 3 1/2 dram load. For 1 oz, 1235 is a normal 3 drammer.
     
  10. Trapazoid

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    It's HOT!
     
  11. charleyj10

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    One oz. at 1270fps is not a hot load.

    Charlie
     
  12. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

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    Is this a 3 dram load, it was or is still in Alliant reloading book in the 70s


    Win AA Hull, Remington 694 wad which is the last 3 #s of an early wad, 20.5 grains Green Dot, 1 1/4 oz of shot @1200 fps

    I think this wad became the SP-12 as it is very similiar.

    This load won me and my buddy $1000s of dollars in calcuttas in the 70s.

    This was listed as a 1 1/4 oz 3 dram load in Alliant Reloading Manual as it was 1200fps.


    Gary Bryant
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  13. slide action

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    It is probably upper end 3-1/4. But my question is why does it matter? The ATA dropped the "dram" nonsense quite awhile back. Unless you are loading black powder "drams" means nothing. ATA says 1290 fps. for 1-1/8--- 1325 fps. for 1 oz.--and 1350 fps. for 7/8 oz. The 1 oz. 1275 fps. would make a good caps load(or hunting load) but with that much powder pushing it you're goona feel it! I am using 19 grs. of G.D.with 1 oz. when I load it and it works great and absolutely crushes targets.
     
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