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Is this a 2 3/4 dram shell

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by 686beretta, Jul 16, 2009.

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  1. 686beretta

    686beretta TS Member

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    I have a Mec Grabber reloader, I use Red Dot, and I am using the no. 27 bushing in the bar is this a 2 3/4 dram equlivelent reload? Thanks guys.
     
  2. Neil Winston

    Neil Winston Well-Known Member

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    Probably not fast enough to be conventionally called 2 3/4 dram.

    People are going to hate that answer, but I'll bet it's right.

    Neil
     
  3. Trap2

    Trap2 Well-Known Member

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    How much does the powder actually weigh on your scale? Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  4. Scoutman 06

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    You need a scale to verify just how much powder is being dropped thru that bushing. I use a Grabber & before I went to a universal charge bar, I found that the actual powder drop did not always match what the chart said for a given bushing. John
     
  5. goatskin

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    Probably not.

    With a few 'dependings', a #27 MEC bushing will drop RD in the low 15s. You may have a velocity of 1020 ... 1050, tops.
     
  6. Andy44

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    Everyone is "assuming" the charge bar is for 1 1/8oz, right?

    AndyH ;-)
     
  7. Tripod

    Tripod Well-Known Member

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    I use a #27 bushing with 700X and one ounce of shot. I don't know the speed, but the powder scales about measure it at 16.3 grains on average. There is also some unburned powder in my barrel after the shot, but they seems to break the targets well and cycles my 1100 reliably. I used to post a few 99's with them but no more it seems.
     
  8. goatskin

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    <i>Everyone is "assuming" the charge bar is for 1 1/8oz, right? </i>

    Heh ... good point. And that it is a 12ga, too.

    Bob
     
  9. Neil Winston

    Neil Winston Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it does make any difference if it is 1 1/8 oz. shot. It still won't be 2 3/4 DE. I know that because when I want to load a sub-1100 fps shell with one ounce of shot, that's what I use (or a 28).

    If it were a smaller gauge 686 wouldn't be using Red Dot, would he?

    Neil
     
  10. goatskin

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    Neil, there are some old RD recipes for 20ga still floating around, and it's a good powder for 16, but I'll bet that 686 can still break all the birds he's 'on' with his 'legal-speed-in-any-school-zone' load.

    Bob
     
  11. Savage99Stan

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    I don't care what the number is on the bushing. The only way you will know how much it drops is to weigh the amount actually dropped.

    I bought a used Grabber from a clubmate who complianed that it wouldn't put a good crimp on the shells, that they opened, and....they kicked.

    I dropped a charge of powder and it was throwing 21 grains of red dot and, note that it was a 118 bar, dropping 1 1/4 oz of 8s. THe bushing, if I remember correctly, was a 30 or 31. The bar had not been modified as the hole for shot was still red anodized.

    Check what drops, compare to the charts, then you'll know.
     
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