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Is there hope for a new product to ever be made???

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Charlie Becknell, Jul 10, 2008.

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  1. Charlie Becknell

    Charlie Becknell Well-Known Member

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    When I was at the Ohio State Shoot I spoke with one of MEC's employees. I asked him if they had ever considered making a "Boxer". By this I mean a machine that will put 25 shells in a box instead of the do it by hand method that we all do now. I guess I am lazy, but I hate this part of reloading. Would anyone else be interested in a machine that would do this? I did send them an email asking if they might consider making one at the employee's suggestion.

    Charlie Becknell
     
  2. phirel

    phirel TS Member

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    Charlie- They are available now, but they take a lot of room and are expensive. All of the shell manufacturers use them. The loaded shells are not "put in a box". The box is formed around the loaded shells.

    Pat Ireland
     
  3. joe kuhn

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    Charlie, What was the employee's suggestion? Holy canoly Pat - that's alot of machine.
     
  4. Charlie Becknell

    Charlie Becknell Well-Known Member

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    Joe,
    When I spoke with the MEC rep. at Ohio he just suggested that I let MEC know there might be interest in the machine. I told him that there are several good reloaders on the market but no "Boxer". I believe that it would sale.

    Charlie

    Pat,
    I have not seen a commercially available "Boxer". Can you expand upon your reply.
     
  5. Charlie Becknell

    Charlie Becknell Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Jerry. Fast forward to fifteen and that is the current model I have. He is too interested in other things to box for old dad. With gas prices going up and looking at adding another driver next year, they may be "Boxing" me next year.

    Charlie
     
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    They have been making boxers for a long time now. My 11 year old is doing the same for me as I did for my father years ago.
     
  7. Mr Newbius©

    Mr Newbius© TS Member

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    Ya know ... you need to open your ears and hear what the MEC dude actually told you.

    He was nicely telling you to leave him alone and to call the people at the plant and tell them your great fantastic idea cause he knows it will never happen and he is paid to be nice and tell you what you desire to hear.

    Now if for some reason they did make a machine to do this task and this machine was going to cost $2500 after R&D vs. the few that would sell would you be jumping up to buy one or would you now say its to expensive?

    Ya know you could always design and come up with one on your own and then get a patent on it and begin production and become a millionaire from all that you will sell since you know they will sell.
     
  8. Charlie Becknell

    Charlie Becknell Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea if they would sell. Would I spend $2,500? Probably not. I was merely asking the question to see if others were interested. There several self-indexing reloaders and they sell for less than $1,000.00. I do not know what the cost would be make an automated machine. As far as me designing anything mechanical, that is not going to happen. By the way, he was very nice and he was the one who made the suggestion that I send in the idea to MEC. If reloading stays as expensive as it is currently I may continue to buy the off brand type of shells that are "prepackaged".

    Charlie
     
  9. Dickgshot

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    What's really needed is a machine to take the damn shells out of the box, so I don't have to pry open the cover to dump them into my pocket.
     
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    dickgtax: see Jerry as above!!!! Don
     
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    For some reason I guess "boxing" is a job no reloader likes. When I was a kid, I was a boxer for my Dad. He reloaded on a single stage Mec, I think it was the 250 model. It would take him probably 15 minutes to reload 25, but he didn't like spending the minute or so it took to box the shells. That was my job.

    I'm the same way now. I hate "boxing" shells. Now I just put them in a 5 gallon bucket. I just grab 5 in a hand and dump them in my shooting vest till I get 25. I then fill up my shooting bag with the rest if I'm shooting a 100.
     
  12. Charlie Becknell

    Charlie Becknell Well-Known Member

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    I have mastered the unboxing. Too bad boxing is not as quick.
    Charlie
     
  13. Jollytrapshooter

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    It takes me about 5 seconds put 25 shells in a box...<BR><BR>
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    But then I can put them into this as I load them as I load on a 650 and not one of them fancy "auto-indexing" machines...Josh
     
  14. Charlie Becknell

    Charlie Becknell Well-Known Member

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    Forget the "boxer", I'll get the Jollytrapshooter to do mine in 2 seconds. I doubt they can make a machine to match this dynamo. Huh, how much do you charge ? I have tried to do mine quickly but I'm no match for " The Man".
    I am willing to trade boxing for my "expert" advice. I can have you flinching and jumping at targets, hating left angle in no time.

    Charlie
     
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    My ol' lady can't wrestle, ---- but you ought to see her---- "BOX" marty
     
  16. phirel

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    Jollytrapshooter can load the shells in a box in around two seconds. But it could take more time to put the shells into his loading rack that puts the shells in the box, than loading them directly into the box.

    Also, Jollytrapshooter, I noted that you mixed red and gray AA shells in the same box. The two different hulls are identical, except for color, but I do not mix the colors in the same box.

    I want all of the shells in a single box to be the same color. I don't have any idea why I want this, I just do.

    Pat Ireland
     
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    Yes, they have to be the same color. At a shoot I loaned a buddy a box of shells, all red and one green one.

    Guess which one was a miss.

    HM
     
  18. Hauxfan

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    Need pictures, Marty........ ;) lol lol

    Hauxfan!
     
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    hmmmm.... going to be embarrassed when that 25 shell doesn't show up... notice the 4 across....
    lol

    Jim
     
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    I used to box shells, and I hated it also. Finally, I got a small job bag at menards (heavy duty for carrying tools - about 12"x8"x8", opens with a wide mouth on the top). I put that under my Spolar, the shells drop in, and I'm good to go. Holds a little over 300 shells - enough for a short day.

    When I get to the field, I fill my pouch and go shoot. Since I can't count to five, I put 4 shells in the outer pocket and one in my hand (don't miss a Move that way). It has been working great, and I highly recommend it.

    Please note - I tried therapy, Prozac and other medications to clear this disorder up first!
     
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