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Is there any truth to harder targets?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by bodybuilder, Mar 24, 2013.

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  1. bodybuilder

    bodybuilder TS Member

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    Yesterday we were shooting some targets by Midwest target co. and no one was breaking as many targets as when we shoot White Flyers and there were a lot of chips. I said it was because these were harder targets. The club said this year they could get federal champion targets a dollar cheaper per case than White Flyers so that is what they thought they would get. Is there anything to a target is harder than another one?
     
  2. JACK

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    3 hole is tougher than 2 hole
     
  3. StonewallRacing

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    We've thrown Midwest for years. I can't tell a difference between them and White Flyers.

    Champions are another story. Break out the HEAVY 7.5s.

    SW
     
  4. Dave P

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    Same here
     
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    As a former trap boy many years ago all my experience was with White Flyer targets at trapfields in southern Md.,many a case were opened with already broken targets,sometimes to the point of having to stop shooting to remove several stacks to find good ones.Also many targets breaking just leaving the trap house,this is in no way scientific,just my experience.
     
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    I guess it is hard to be a champion.

    Fifteen two and a pair is four

    Bill
     
  7. blizzard

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    If they were harder, they would break easier.
     
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    I don't know about those brands, but there is a real difference between Bio targets and regular targets. The Bio's are much harder to break.
     
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    We had to switch from white flyer to champion targets in the middle of a public shoot last fall. The difference was immediately obvious. What I'm wondering is why isn't there some kind of standard "breakability" that the clay manufacturers have to adhere to? Bill
     
  10. Hauxfan

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    They are all hard targets when I shoot. lol

    Hauxfan!
     
  11. Capt.Ron/FL

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    There are shooting targets and shipping targets, for us out west it was W.Flyer and Eclipse and the shipping targets were Caldwells..

    Ron H.
     
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    BIO's more difficult to break-I doubt it and my scores don't show it. Better color but more unpredictable in flight-maybe. Champions are a different animal!!
     
  13. merlynstrapguns

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    Put the shot on the target and it will break. A fringe hit may go unnoticed .. might make a better shooter if you tighten up that choke and put as much shot on the target as you can (that is what Leo likes to say)....merlyn
     
  14. nejones

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    As long as everyone is shooting the same targets at a shoot, does it really matter?

    Blessings,
    Nelson
     
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    I put a lot more gravy on hard targets and let it soak in a bit before I can stomach em!
     
  16. Jawhawker

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    Actually not harder but softer. To hard and they would break off the arm. That's laymen terms. But it is with the composition formula nevertheless.

    If your having issues with ability to break and negative feedback from patron's, you better change targets before they change clubs!
     
  17. Johnny

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    "...we have picked up numerous birds with numerous holes in them which did not break"

    Were any those holes in the target rim? I have never seen a hole through the target rim of an unbroken target. I've seen cracked rims but not holes. I have seen holes in the dome of all brands that were "lost." The dome isn't a vital organ.
     
  18. blizzard

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    While shooting Annie's Saturday I saw a White Flyer very noticably change direction when shot at and not break. It was out there- prob only 3' off of the ground, but I had never seen that before. I mean it deviated a good couple of feet before hitting the ground. Not even a chip came off of it.
     
  19. Bird30

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    We shoot Midwest targets almost all the time and have not had any problems with them. Are you sure that they didn't get wet.

    Dave
     
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    Out here in Mondamtana, you better have pitch White Flyers for Registered shoots or attendence will suffer, for us its the best bird, a lot of ATAers think so anyway. Scott
     
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