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Is an Allem Roller Release Trigger............?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by hunter44, Aug 3, 2013.

  1. hunter44

    hunter44 Well-Known Member

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    Is an Allem Roller Release trigger worth the extra cash it costs compared to a Phillip's trigger job? The extra cost is approx. $250.00.
     
  2. southjblue

    southjblue Active Member

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    Don't know much about Phillip's but I have the Allem roller and also one with an orig KI release----both are great----gL---George@SJB
     
  3. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    Phillips does great and reasonably priced work. Release triggers are not rocket science but can be individualistic. If you don't know what you need try a few first. Roller releases cannot be installed in all guns. A medium release is a good place to start. Too fast and you'll likely let go of it before you get to the target. Too slow and you'll flinch or shoot front and over targets!!
     
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    grntitan Well-Known Member

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    Can't comment on the Allem's but I have a Phillips Release in my 682 Gold E and love it. I personally couldn't see spending the extra cash but that's me.
     
  5. joe90t

    joe90t Active Member

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    Just my opinion but,Phillip's is worth MORE than an Allem and My Experience with Allem was Not that good.Maybe I have an attitude but,Allem SURE does. JOE Joe90t
     
  6. AveragEd

    AveragEd Well-Known Member

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    I've had Krieghoff International releases, Timney releases, an Allem old-style release and now have Allem's Roller Releases. I like the Roller Releases best and not just because they feel crisp yet smooth and can be easily tailored to the shooter BY the shooter but because when my son inherits my trap gun, he can convert it back to GOOD pull triggers in minutes. As I learned when I gave him my Krieghoff with Krieghoff releases, you can't always do that when sears are changed to accommodate releases. After having had releases in it, that gun's pull triggers were mushy and inconsistent.

    So yes, I think the extra $250 would be money well spent.

    Ed
     
  7. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    Since Ed hasn't shot ATA trap for many years and the roller release is a recent invention I can't help but think Ed is simply advertising for Allem. How many targets has you're average gone up since installing that roller release-Ed??
     
  8. j2jake

    j2jake Well-Known Member

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    I have shot both and say NO! Phillips did the release on a 3200 I have and is much friendlier to deal with. Allem gets no more business from me. Jake
     
  9. slickhead

    slickhead Active Member

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    NO- NOT worth the difference. I agree with Joe90T and j2jake. I had a BAD experience with ALLEMS. I would NOT own a ZOLI just because they install the releases as the add advertises. They could give a rats ass about you!!!! Sorry thats the way I feel. Jimmy
     
  10. docbombay

    docbombay Well known trouble maker

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    I have no experience with Allem.

    I have experience with Phillips.

    You seldom if ever hear anyone complain about Phillips.

    The same cannot be said about Allems.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    Doc
     
  11. BROWNST100

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    Allem's Roller Release System can be adjusted by the owner or changed back to pull triggers, with the original feel, by simply changing the roller or removing them. No special tools needed...remove the stock and all you need is a flat bladed screwdriver. If you ever decide to sell or trade the gun you double the number of potential buyers since a simple removal of the roller makes it a quality pull trigger again.

    I have or have had, releases by Kolar, Phillips & B. McDaniels. They all work, the original Allem's Release was my favorite till I tried the Roller Releases.

    Ohhhh...I must qualify my prior statements with the following...I have not shot any ATA for awhile since health problems keep me from doing that. I struggle to stand long enough to shoot 25 targets and my scores reflect that health condition. What it doesn't preclude is the difference I can feel in the different mfg's. of releases.

    I do not have any complaints about either the Allem's Roller Releases or the Allem Family. They have always treated both Myself and my wife Brenda with dignity and friendship. We both treasure their friendship.

    The decision which release to buy should be based on experience and not hearsay, name calling, or antimosity alone. Try several different ones and make your own decision.

    Vern
     
  12. Jim Bradbury

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    I have Phillips double releases in by Browning XT. I had a Blaser Combo with Allems double release triggers (Not the roller release as they are not available with a Blaser trigger system) My experience with Allem's has been like a poster stataed above not the best. Allem's certainly has an ATTITUDE or at least the women that answered the phone when I called did. IMHO the Allem's triggers of any type are not worth the price or headache when and if you have to deal with them for a trigger tune up or repairs. "Phillip's all the way"

    Just my Opinion,

    Jim Bradbury
     
  13. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    I have a roller release that I bought second hand. I have had a regular Allems release, two Phillip's releases, a Bowen and a McDaniels. I never dealt with the Allems so can't comment on that aspect but the roller release seems to be the most consistent of the bunch and the ability to tune it to your liking by changing rollers is worth the difference in my opinion.
     
  14. AveragEd

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    Whether the gun is pointed at a registered target or a practice target, the feel of the trigger is the same and the Roller Releases feel better to me.

    Ed
     
  15. Jon Reitz

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    Somebody needs to remove this thread..
     
  16. AveragEd

    AveragEd Well-Known Member

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    Jon, you're right. I have edited my post so as not to stoop to the same level.

    Ed
     
  17. slickhead

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    US Marine Retired to bad we all can,t say the same!!!!!!!!
     
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