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Illegals and Soc. Sec. ?Wrote my Congressman

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Barrelbulge(Fl), Apr 22, 2011.

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  1. Barrelbulge(Fl)

    Barrelbulge(Fl) Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    I couldn't get the heading to come through, but it was on congressional stationary. Jason Altmire.

    Dear Mr. K.

    Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding Social Security benefits for illegal immigrants. I appreciate hearing from you.


    I am pleased to inform you that current law prohibits illegal immigrants from receiving federal benefits. These individuals have entered our country illegally; therefore, they do not qualify for benefits from the United States. Congress has not recently voted on or passed legislation to grant Social Security benefits to illegal immigrants.

    Americans have said time and again that they want a commonsense solution to curb the flood of illegal immigrants into the United States - one that respects our nation's borders and the rule of law. This solution should protect taxpayers and American jobs without granting amnesty to those within our borders who have broken laws.

    In the last term of Congress, I was a cosponsor of the Employment Verification Amendment Act, which would have extended the E-Verify program for five years and protected the beneficiaries of Social Security. I was also a cosponsor of the Secure America through Verification and Enforcement (SAVE) Act, which called for the hiring of new border patrol agents to secure our borders and required every American employer to verify its employees' eligibility to work in the United States. As you may know, the House did not consider either of these bills during the last term of Congress.

    Thank you again for taking the time to contact me. If I can be of further assistance to you on this or any other matter, please feel free to be in touch.
     
  2. TEXASZEPHYR

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    Unfortunately, this law isn't worth the paper it was written on unless our government is willing to enforece it (which it isn't). We're just up the famous creek without a paddel until something changes.I'm now for hope n change, we dont want this clown in there again.

    Bob
     
  3. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    By "Hope and Change" you mean we are hoping to change leadership. Hell I pray for that change. Bulge.
     
  4. atadams77

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    I don't understand the way the Gov. thinks things through. The reason our situation is the way it is today is because all of the free loaders on our system. The US is subscribed to a capital society right...so why not make immigration a money making venture.

    Here is my solution, its very simple:

    First off there is no way to stop immigration. I don't care what anyone says or what they believe. This is the richest country in the world, who doesn't want to live here. Therefore, people will always be finding a way in somehow. We need to start looking at immigration from a business standpoint. So here we go...

    hear me out here...Open the boarders to all. Legalize immigration but..instead of just letting anyone cross or enter we setup lots of entrance points. At these entrance points place officers and immigration specialist. To enter the USA and become a citizen you must be required to pay a "cover, entry charge, or new citizen/entry tax". Make it a $1000 US dollars per person. Not to high an entry tax or they will continue to "sneak in". The entry tax has to be doable. At this time assign Soc. Sec. numbers also.

    This is a win win situation. Imagine how much of the natl. debt could be paid by the millions of people entering the country every year. The at the same time they will be getting taxed immediately. This way the US earns money and new citizens are legal, meaning they have to pay taxes and contribute to the system just like everyone else.

    just a thought of mine...
     
  5. recurvyarcher

    recurvyarcher Well-Known Member

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    Do you really want to open the borders to all of the middle eastern terrorist who have funding? Really?
     
  6. atadams77

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    Well I mean within reason of course. There will be exceptions if you are trying to entry from a country we are at war with. I'm not a phd, senator, gov. official , etc, so I'm sure there are many caveats, but I just think we need to be monopolizing on the immigration issue some how.

    Nothing is free in this world, so why should immigration be?
     
  7. W.P.T.

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    The last letter I sent to my Congressman can back written in english on one side and spanish on the other side of the paper ... More of that Political correctness running wild ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  8. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Yeah, a thousand to get in, then get your welfare at about $2000 a month. Not a bad deal. I'd say shoot them as they cross the border, they are invading our country. Bulge.
     
  9. Captain Bud

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    The illegals are paying, we are told, $2,000. to 5,000. to the folks getting them into the country now. Why would you want to lower the price of admission.

    The government (Fed) is saying the illegals aren't getting any money from them. Why then are all these spanish speaking folks in line at the state offices to collect food cards, checks for the kids they bring with them and/or the kids that are American citizens (anchor babies).

    It is time to bring our soldiers back from other countries around the globe and station them along the southern border of the United States.

    The Border Patrol stopped some folks coming into the US yesterday and found dozens of temales stacked on top of kilos of dope. Nice job border patrol.

    I get very tired of walking into our stores here in Arizona and hearing nothing but spanish being spoken. It really ticks me off when the store announcer comes on the speaker system and makes the announcement in both english and spanish. English is the only language that should be used in this country. Speak it when your out and about, or go home.

    That is my rant for the day.

    Phil
     
  10. southjblue

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    Illegals do pay into SS but can't collect any SS benifit---Those SS $$s go into the SS fund and never used to fund any illegal person.We as an employer take out all taxes and SS from any person that fills out an I9 form and presents us with a green card that matches their name and all records that are presented to us.---We by lay can't even ask them if the records are legal or if they are legal---We as an employer who asks for documention are subject to a law suit.---Now they,the illegal person is O.K. to use the medical service of any hosp/and all local wellfair service.No ??s asked---The law protects them as the right to live with charitable services---I know becaue I'v been there---George@SJB---
     
  11. likes-to-shoot

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    I've heard that when the illegals use a SS# and its discovered the lawful user of that number can't draw SS until the mess is straighted out. Usually when its discovered its when the lawful user wants to draw his benefits. Another poke in the eye for the American citizen.
     
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    ctreay---Your so right right---The Libs have it set up that you as an employer you can't ask if they are legal---That farmer is in deep shixxt---Been there done that----George@SJB---
     
  13. Shooting Jack

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    Illegals do collect money and valuable every day. They attend schools and receive free meals. I see many of them going into Children and family services to get monthly checks because they are poor. Most of them in my area are baling pine straw and average making $1000.00 a week with no taxes paid as they receive cash. It's riduculous. As you can tell it really pisses me off and no one is doing anything about it. Jackie B.
     
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    In addition to not allowing terrorists, can we also block lawyers?

    Pete
     
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    What the employer can do, and is required to do, is veryify that every employee is legally eligible to work in the United States. My employer does that and believe me it takes alot more to establish this than just a single piece of paper. What the employer cannot do use racially discriminatory hiring practices. Getting proof of work eligibilty is not racially discriminatory, it is the law.

    Going after the employers of all these illegals is the only way we will be able to turn the tide. Ultimately that means as consumers we need to be prepared to pay more for many goods and services. We are aready paying the price but in an indirect fashion which tends to mask the truth of the matter.
     
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    "The last letter I sent to my Congressman can back written in english on one side and spanish on the other side of the paper ... More of that Political correctness running wild"


    ...and it was written by one of your Congressman's minions, with only the Congressman himself taking all but 5 seconds to glance at it and sign it, if you are lucky he signs it himself and not use a "rubber stamp" with his signature..

    I wouldn't expect much from any Congressional Rep. if you are Joe Blow Average...start becoming a big time donor if you want a "real" reply back...
     
  17. Stl Flyn

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    If those people are not paying taxes, then the employer is not claiming the money paid to those people. That is illegal. I would bet that there is more than illegal aliens working there at that location bailing pine straw, if it pays $1000/week tax free.
     
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