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***If Obama gets elected to a second term***

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by JimBailey, Jan 21, 2012.

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  1. JimBailey

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    Some of you may have seen this before...I had not. Pretty scary when you think about it...

    California's Not Dreamin': This Is the Nightmare of an Obama Second Term by Roger Hedgecock Former mayor of San Diego.............. 12/09/2011

    I live in California. If you were wondering what living in Obama's second term would be like, wonder no longer. We in California are living there now.

    California is a one-party state dominated by a virulent Democratic Left enabled by a complicit media where every agency of local, county, and state government is run by and for the public employee unions. The unemployment rate is 12%.

    California has more folks on food stamps than any other state, has added so many benefits and higher rates to Medicaid that we call it "Medi-Cal." Our K-12 schools have more administrators than teachers, and smaller classes but lower test scores and higher dropout rates with twice the per-student budget of 15 years ago. Good job, Brownie.

    This week, the once and current Gov. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown had to confess that the "balanced" state budget adopted five months ago was billions in the red because actual tax revenues were billions lower than the airy-fairy revenue estimates on which the balance was predicated.

    After trimming legislators' perks and reducing the number of cell phones provided to state civil servants, the governor intoned that drastic budget reductions had already hollowed out state programs for the needy, law enforcement and our schoolchildren. California government needed more money.

    Echoing the Occupy movement, the governor proclaimed the rich must pay their fair share. Fair share? The top 1% of California income earners currently pays
    50% of the state's income tax.

    California has seven income tax brackets. The top income tax rate is 9.3%, which is slapped on the greedy rich earning at least $47,056 a year. Income of more than $1 million pays the "millionaires' and billionaires'" surcharge tax rate of
    10.3%.

    Brown's proposal would add 2% for income over $250,000. A million-dollar income would then be taxed at 12.3%. And that's just for the state.

    Brown also proposed a one-half-cent sales tax increase, which would bring sales taxes (which vary by county) to 7.75% to 10%. Both tax increases would be on the ballot in 2012.

    The sales tax increase proposal immediately brought howls of protest from the Left (of Brown!). Charlie Eaton, a sociology grad student at UC Berkeley and leader of the UC Student-Workers Union, said, "We've paid enough. It's time for millionaires to pay."

    At least five other ballot measures to raise taxes are circulating for signatures to get on the 2012 ballot in California. The governor's proposals are the most conservative.

    The Obama way doesn't end with taxes.

    The governor and the state legislature continue to applaud the efforts of the California High Speed Rail Authority? to build a train connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco. Even though the budget is three times the voter-approved amount, and the first segment will only connect two small towns in the agricultural Central Valley. But hey, if we build it, they will ride.

    And we don't want to turn down the Obama bullet-train bucks Florida and other states rejected because the operating costs would bankrupt them. Can't happen here-we're already insolvent.

    If we get into real trouble with the train, we'll just bring in the Chinese. It worked with the Bay Bridge reconstruction. After the 1989 earthquake, the bridge connecting Oakland and San Francisco was rebuilt with steel made in China. Workers from China too. Paid for with money borrowed from China. Makes perfect sense.

    In California, we hate the evil, greedy rich (except the rich in Hollywood and in sports, and in drug dealing). But we love people who have broken into California to eat the bounty created by the productive rich.

    Illegals get benefits from various generous welfare programs, free medical care, free schools for their kids, including meals, and of course, instate tuition rates and scholarships too. Governor Perry?, California has a heart. Nothing's too good for our guests.

    To erase even a hint of criticism of illegal immigration, the California Legislature is considering a unilateral state amnesty. Democrat State Assemblyman Felipe Fuentes has proposed an initiative that would bar deportation of illegals from California.

    Interesting dilemma for Obama there. If immigration is exclusively a federal matter, and Obama has sued four states for trying to enforce federal immigration laws he won't enforce, what will the President do to a California law that exempts California from federal immigration law?

    California is also near fulfilling the environmentalist dream of deindustrialization.

    After driving out the old industrial base (auto and airplane assembly, for example), air and water regulators and tax policies are now driving out the high-tech, biotech and even Internet-based companies that were supposed to be California's future.

    The California cap-and-trade tax on business in the name of reducing CO2 makes our state the leader in wacky environmentalism and guarantees a further job exodus from the state.

    Even green energy companies can't do business in California. Solyndra went under, taking its taxpayer loan guarantee with it.

    No job is too small to escape the regulators. The state has even banned weekend amateur gold miners from the historic gold mining streams in the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

    In fact, more and more of California's public land is off-limits to recreation by the people who paid for that land. Unless you're illegal. Then you can clear the land, set up marijuana plantations at will, bring in fertilizers that legal farmers can no longer use, exploit illegal farm workers who live in hovels with no running water or sanitation, and protect your investment with armed illegals carrying guns no California citizen is allowed to own.

    The rest of us only found out about these plantations when the workers' open campfire started one of those devastating fires that have killed hundreds of people and burned out thousands of homes in California over the last decade.

    It was said after California's Proposition 13 in 1978 cut property tax rates and was copied in other states, that whatever happened in California would soon happen in your state.

    You'd better hope that's wrong. Be afraid...Be very afraid!
     
  2. Catpower

    Catpower Molon Labe TS Supporters

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    I am afraid, very afraid

    We have to clear the government housing in DC of it's present occupants

    Vote wisely this November
     
  3. daddiooo

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    Just a glimpse of what Obama has in store for us all during his 2nd term.

    Retiring to Costa Rica or Panama is beginning to look better all the time. Average of 80 degrees year round, US currency, english is primary language, cost of living is a fraction of what it is here in the US.
     
  4. bill1949

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    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Californians voted for and have the government they deserve. Hope they enjoy it.

    What I can't believe is why any decent people, especially gun owners, are still living there.
     
  6. deadnout

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    all we could hope for is a strong earthquake and california slides off into the ocean. their form of government has set precedent for the rest of the country. lets brake the mold in november and kick out the rest of the lossers. above all defeat pelosi and the rest of those lossers. its time to quit giving and start taking back. if they keep it up theres going to be a blood letting.
     
  7. capulona

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    I'd like to hear it: what part of your life had significantly changed since this administration took over in 2009? We're looking for concrete economic, social or environmental impact that directly affected you?

    I myself run a small business in NJ and nothing has actually changed with my business, lifestyle our economic outlook in the last 3 administrations (GW included), at least nothing concrete. I hear a lot of bitching and moaning and doom and gloom but no one has actually stated exactly how Obama and his policies has screwed them specifically.
     
  8. bigdogtx

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    BIO,,,,,the PROBLEM is they are going to want the rest of us to PAY for it,,,,,if they want to live this way,,,,fine,,,,,just don't expect thre rest of the US to pay for it....
     
  9. John Galt

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    cappy, I sure hope you are joking
     
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    Fuel prices have doubled and for rural folks this has been very difficult and my health insurance has doubled because now my insurance must cover things I don't want such as mammograms, colonoscopies, psa's, etc. We just want major medical but now we have to help pay for all these tests for others.
     
  11. Setterman

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    Well, there's paying for this Health care thing while our tax base and economy is in the dumpster.

    Gas was $1.86 when he was elected. Unemplyment was 6%.

    Maybe it's not what he's done, but what he hasn't done.....except play a lot of golf.
     
  12. Stl Flyn

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    Great post Capulona.

    Do you think your life would be that much better right now if McCain won?

    Would the economy, gas prices, etc., be where you want them do be so that you are not suffering in life, if McCain won?

    Is it just politics playing out like usual, that you have to think that your life is being affected because the other party won?

    Is your life really that bad right now, just because of Obama?
     
  13. slide action

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    Looks like the site has two new liberal Obama lovers!
     
  14. cnsane

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    What do you mean IF. In all of our history, we have never unseated a wartime president. And the towelheads want retribution for our supposedly killing Osama so as to distract us from a forged birth certificate.. Do the math and hang on tight.
     
  15. Setterman

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    I still don't understand how anyone can come on this site and stand up for a president that is anti-gun. Please explain why gas was $1.86 when he was elected, and now it's $3.56, and Obama has stated it wouldn't bother him if it $5.00!

    Please explain what he and his administration has done to turn the economy around. What has he done in housing? construction? financing? national security? What has he done to improve the economy?

    And don't blame congress. He had a Democratic Congress for quite some time, and still has a Democratic Senate that hasn't passed a budget in nearly 4 years!

    Facts boys, facts.
     
  16. Stl Flyn

    Stl Flyn Well-Known Member

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    Wow, you guys should be politicians.
     
  17. Skeety7

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    I would ask how many of the people that have posted on this thread get Social Security and Medicare? These are Democrat programs think how your life would be without them.If you don't believe in them give it back.We got nailed by Dubya and the Wall St. bankers just like in the Great Depression.All of our collapses have been under Republican administrations. Nobody says Obama is a genius but there are people that have the ability to think through ALL the issues. Guns are not the only issue facing this country by a long shot.Democrats have guns just like Republicans ,maybe we don't have our heads in the sand.The only words Republicans know is NO and they have proved that by stopping the government since 2010 and its going to cost them.A lot of people are hoping for a better life than and we recognize that all this crap started long ago before Obama.
     
  18. John Galt

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    Liberism is a mental disease as several prove constantly.
     
  19. Skeety7

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    It is not a mental disease it is called decency.If that is bad I admit it.
     
  20. Setterman

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    The last economic f-up was started by Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, another Democratic pushed financing give away to people who could manage their own butt. The only fault of the Republicans was to not fight to end it or atleast restructure it.

    I'll back any Republican or Democrat that says "No" to increasing the debt, hiring more useless federal employees, or continuing to give freebees to deadbeats.

    BTW....you avoided actually responding to the isses previously posted. Could that be because you are as clueless as your fearless leader?
     
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