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Idiot leftist unintended consequences again

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by wireguy, Jul 11, 2013.

  1. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998

    I love it when west coast leftists are forced to deal with their own ideological champions.

    California regulators look to curb beach bonfires, citing climate change

    By William La Jeunesse
    Published July 11, 2013

    A tradition dating back to the 1940s -- bonfire pits on the beaches of southern California -- is being targeted by state officials who say the popular pastime is no longer acceptable because of global warming and negative health consequences.

    "One fire pit burning one night, a few hours, a couple bundles of wood, emits as much as one average diesel truck on the road today driving over 500 miles," said Dr. Philip Fine, of the Southern California Air Quality Management District (AQMD).

    AQMD staff recommended banning open fires at the beach and removing the hundreds of concrete fire pits that stretch from San Diego to Los Angeles.

    The proposal drew fire from beachgoers, who often show up early in the morning to reserve a spot.

    "I would be super bummed if they banned bonfires on the beach because it's such a California thing," said Los Angeles resident Liz Corona. "It's such a fun, social thing to do with friends. And, um, I feel like it's not really doing any harm, so why would they ban them?"

    Local regulators may be easing off the proposal, and plan to vote on a compromise shortly.

    But to the air quality police, the harm is evident. Air quality monitors miles from the beach pick up tiny particulates and carcinogens from burning wood that damage health.

    "There's a lot of studies that definitely show that wood smoke, as well as just particulate matter in general, are very harmful to health," Fine said. "There's people living very close to these fire pits who tell us that they have smoke in their house, that they have respiratory problems, and this causes them to aggravate those respiratory problems."

    Initially, many thought the rules would go through without much opposition. Beachgoers are not an especially vocal or organized lobby. Leaf-blowers and gas-powered weed wackers cause far more air pollution than beach bonfires, but California chose not to regulate them after Hispanic lawmakers protested on behalf of landscapers.

    "We're just out here, having fun, hanging out, not doing anything bad," said Cristi Valencia, as she put another hot dog on the fire at Dockweiler Beach in Playa del Rey, Calif. "There's so many other ways we can protect the environment, this just doesn't seem like a very good one."

    After some county supervisors in Los Angeles and Orange County protested, the AQMD backed off a bit. Under a compromise, only those pits within 700 feet of a home must be removed. And fires would be permitted unless the region's air quality is already considered unhealthful.

    The AQMD board is expected to vote on the compromise recommendation Friday.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/11/california-regulators-look-to-curb-beach-bonfires-citing-climate-change/?intcmp=obinsite#ixzz2Ylxqp2o2
  2. darr

    darr Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Ca. is 40 billion in the whole. Businesses are leaving as fast as they can pack. Ca. has the highest state tax in the country and still can't pay it's bills. Gang members murder each other daily. And so on and so on and so on.

    And this is what officials are worrying about. And the people that vote them in can't believe they're doing it. Mind boggling.

  3. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Governor Moonbeam will come up with a compromise where each pit is allotted so many pounds of a specified (unendangered)wood species per 24 hours. Violators will have their taxes quadrupled.

    Things have been worse.


    Bob Falfa
  4. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    No sympathy. They're getting the government they wanted and voted for.
  5. JPM

    JPM Active Member

    Dec 22, 2009
    Bob, Is that an old picture of the pier at Huntington Beach? JPM
  6. RobertT

    RobertT Well-Known Member

    Jun 27, 2006
    If they can't regulate it they will ban it! Bon fires on beaches effecting climate change is a far reach even for environmentalists.

  7. Catpower

    Catpower Molon Labe

    Jan 29, 1998
    In the Cabana
    Back when I lived in the city during the first cold snap you could smell all the fireplaces getting cranked up for the first time and wondered how long it would take some nut ball to try to get them shut down, guess I got my answer, about 20 years
  8. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    Eastern Washington
    Yep the ole fireplace smoke is so baaaaaaaaaad for you!!! Ever been around when the Forest Service does their spring "controlled" burns???

    I won't mention the fire storm of last year, where I couldn't see 2 blocks away for a month.

    Yep those eco-freaks and their "control" regs sure save the environment!!
  9. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    What do you expect from a group that thinks the arrogant kenyan is their eternal savior?
    The bad thing is, they will not stop there. Next the whole country will have to stop grilling hamburgers outside on the 4th of July when we are celibrating our "freedom".
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