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Idea behind eyes closed mount-your-gun test?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by joe kuhn, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. joe kuhn

    joe kuhn Furry Lives Matter TS Supporters

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    What's the idea behind the eyes closed test when mounting your gun?

    When I was fitting my 3200, I couldn't get the eyes closed test to work. With my eyes closed, I mounted my gun awkwardly and quickly gave it up. Apparently I use visual cues to mount the gun correctly and consistently. With my eyes closed those visual cues are absent and cause problems separate from the fitting exercise. I abandoned the exercise in front of my mirror completely. I could see how my eye lined up with the rib in the mirror by doing the whole mounting exercise with my eyes open. So after my eye was centered, I moved on. Can someone help me understand?

    The bigger problem I had was that I found myself conforming to the stock, with repeated mounts, rather than getting good feedback to guide the changing of the stock so it would conform to me. I solved this by limiting my mounts to 3 and putting significant time in between tests. First thing in the morning gave me the best feedback. Of course Holga kept asking me what in the world I was doing with my gun first thing in the morning. I tried explaining it to her, but all I got was silence and a later comment about my being weird.

    The eyes closed mounting test just didn't work for me. Am I missing something?

    Thanks, Joe
     
  2. claybrdr

    claybrdr Well-Known Member

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    The benefit comes from people who shoot a low gun for FITASC or Sporting. When you mount with your eyes open you tend to make the adjustment to arrive at a perfect "look" or fit. Can't do that "mount and check" in shooting disciplines that call for a low mount. Move-mount-shoot enables you to build the necessary gun speed for more difficult presentations.

    Mounting with the eyes closed is a check to ensure the gun fit is perfect and doesn't require any last little adjustments. Its probably unnecessary for a Trap or Skeet shooter who pre-mounts the gun.
     
  3. joe kuhn

    joe kuhn Furry Lives Matter TS Supporters

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    claybrdr,

    I can see how starting with a low gun might associate it with like disciplines, but it's still a mystery as to how it helps insure the perfect fit.

    To be thorough, here's the procedure I followed:

    1. Stand in front of the mirror with a low gun.

    2. Close your eyes and mount your gun.

    3. Open your eyes and see how the gun fits as in how the eye appears over the rib horizontally.

    Maybe I've got the procedure wrong. Maybe I'm wrong about the eye over the rib check.
    Joe
     
  4. Scootermac50

    Scootermac50 Active Member

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    If it lines up perfectly without any effort, then you know it fits you... One can get any gun to fit within reason, but if its effortless that is one less thing to think about. We all know that shooting isn't a thinking mans sport.
     
  5. joe kuhn

    joe kuhn Furry Lives Matter TS Supporters

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    Ah, that helps. I think it is an eye over the rib check and if your eyes are closed, you can't cheat on the way into the mount. Thanks. That's the reasoning I recall now.

    When doing it in the morning, I made sure I got into my gun first and then looked at my eye placement over the rib. No cheating.

    Thanks.
     
  6. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    Joe, trap shooters are great at fitting themselves to a new gun when they want to buy one!! The mid-bead helps in the desire, "if I can see a figger 8", it fits and justifies the buy.

    The closed eye mount tells you one thing as Mac pointed out above. If it doesn't align, it doesn't fit, simple as that. To shoot more consistently, it must fit.

    HAP
     
  7. Johnny

    Johnny Well-Known Member

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    That's why more people don't shoot such contraptions.
     
  8. joe kuhn

    joe kuhn Furry Lives Matter TS Supporters

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    Hap - that makes sense when shopping for a gun. When fitting, I don't like the exercise at all. Since I'm going to be honest with myself, because I'm after the best fit, I'd rather keep my eyes open and look in the mirror. Any contortions I may do to make it fit better can be seen in the mirror.

    Thanks all.