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I'd be a jail bird in NJ !!

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by 635 G, May 22, 2009.

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  1. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

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    Just read in the Morris County Daily Record, that a man was arrested for possession of 40 firearms. Several had high capacity magazines. If I was in NJ or traveling thru with several of my firearms I guess I would be in deep poop. In the past I read about a person being arrested for possession of Cor-bon ammo (cop-killer NJ jargon) Besides, NJ, Maryland, Mass, Illinois, & Ca. what other states are nut job anti-gun?

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  2. capvan

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    Can't answer the question, but Vermont is the most "pro-gun" state. NO handgun laws of any kind. Carry anywhere, anytime, except for schools. Recent law passed preventing anyone from shutting down a range for noise problems. Governor visits the club during National Hunting and Fishing day...

    Bruce
     
  3. grntitan

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    Phil---Not so fast on the Illinois slamming. I have a very large collection including assult weapons high capacity clips the whole works. I reguarly shoot with police officers and they know of mine and others collections. They are not banned or illegal here just like where you live. Make sure your facts are straight before you group all together.----Matt
     
  4. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

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    Matt- I stand corrected, I guess I should have worded my post, besides NJ what other states are truly anti-gun.

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  5. Leo

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    I am a former Chicago resident. And then Cook County. You cannot even have a firearm in your house. You cannot buy ammo. Mandatory jail time for anyone caught with a handgun. Some of the more rural parts of Illinios are less problems, but Illinios is not exactly gun friendly. There is an mandatory FOID. Firearms owner ID card. You cannot even buy ammo without one. They register every purchase, even a little box of .22 ammo. I do not think Illinios even has lawful concealed carry permits. The Illinios Rifle and Pistol Association has to have representitives at the state house many sessions to testify against gun bans. Anyone who still has an AR type rifle can thank the competitors of the Illinios Rifle and Pistol Association. I have relatives in central Illinios who are great people, but for some reason the population keeps voting anti-gun socialists into leadership. Of course somehow we got Barack Hussien obama in the white house apologizing to our enemies for being a American. Strange times we live in.....
     
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    How uneducated people can be. It is nowhere near what it is made out to be. Cook county is the exception to the rule and for the most part it earned its badge. The rest of the 98% of the state is totally not what you percieve it is. The state of Illinois does have alot more and strict rules than many other states but it is not what you make it out to be. I guess i'm wasting my time but that was my 2cents anyway.----Matt
     
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    Phil, HA,NY are no bargains. Mandatory registration. Michael Sharkey, DC
     
  8. 635 G

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    Trying to make things clear. I'm no longer a Jersey resident "Thank God". The person who was arrested is being charged with unlawful possession of an assault firearm with high capacity magazines, (3 counts), He is also charged with having high capacity magazines. Bail is set at 200k. Wondering how many people who post on this site would be considered criminals according to NJ statutes. I would.

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  9. Finprof

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    Since I am an idiot, I moved from South Carolina to New Jersey. The gun laws are very strict here. Don't even think about owning an M1 carbine let alone an AR-15. High capacity magazines (over 10 rounds) are strictly forbidden here, even for handguns.

    About a decade ago, the lead singer for Blues Traveler was arrested for driving through New Jersey while he had in his posession one (1) hollow-point 357 magnum cartridge. The Federal government passed a law premitting safe passage through a state with restrictive gun laws as long as the gun was legal in the home state.

    One of the members of my gun club was rear-ended by another car at a trffic light. The damage to the trunk made the gun case visible - a case for a BT99. He was arrsted and released only after he proved that he had been partipating in a registered ATA event that showed his name and scores.
     
  10. widomaker

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    Phil:

    If I'm not mistaken I met you at one of the shoots here in NC. Are you not from up north in that area ? I'm from Orange County NY very close to Orange County Choppers if you know where that is and I know its almost impossible to get a handgun permit in NY. You have to have notarized signatures from people that have known you for 5 years and then you still might not get the handgun permit. I never had any trouble with my long guns though ie my shotguns. I'm not sure why they would arrest someone in Jersey for a BT-99 but I think that might have been just bad luck.

    Martin ATA #0765881
     
  11. Bushmaster1313

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    Finprof:

    Magazines are legal in NJ up to 15 rounds.

    One time I moved 2 blocks and it took me six months to get a duplicate Firearms Purchasers I.D. card. Without that card you have no 2nd Amendment rights in New Jersey.

    I had to check one of four boxes for why I needed a new card:

    1) Lost old card

    2) Changed name

    3) Changed address

    4) Changed gender -- I am not kidding! (P.S., I'm still a guy)

    Note:
    A DPMS LR-308 with a high power scope, bipod, 24" bull barrel and twenty 15 round magazines loaded with .308 match ammo can reach out and touch a lot of people at 500+ yards and is perfectly legal in New Jersey. Put a flash suppressor and a bayonet lug on a Ruger 10/22 (which might have trouble getting through a thick denim jacket) and you are felony toast and your 2nd Amendment rights are gone for good. Clearly, only a Democrat could understand the wisdom and logic of this.

    Lou
     
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    As a former NJ resident, Currently living in Arizona.
    I can find NO compelling, or socialy redeeming reason to ever cross back East of the Mississippi River.
     
  13. Brian in Oregon

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    Anyone who says Illinois is gun friendly has been living too long under the heels of his governmental masters.<br>
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    FOID cards are a license to exercise your Second Amendment rights.<br>
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    Let's see what happens when you put an AR15 in a pickup gun rack and drive through Chicago.<br>
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    And many of us quite well remember the numerous attempts by the Illinois legislature to ban entire classes of guns. One proposed law would have limited shotguns to single barrel break action .410's, simply by defining all the rest out of existence.<br>
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    Come on.
     
  14. Bushmaster1313

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    Brian:

    Lose your FOID card in New Jersey, or simply move from one house to another, and it can take six months to get your 2nd Amendment rights back.

    One thing for certain though, there have been no flash suppressed drive by bayonetings since the so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" went into effect in New Jersey. Nobody has been pistol gripped either. (There may, however, be a report of a female terrorist committing an assault with a pair of those darned folded stockings)

    Given the demonstrated success of the Assault Weapons Ban maybe we should ask our legislature to pass laws against murder, rape, robbery and arson.

    Lou
     
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    "Pistol-gripped"

    Lou, you crack me up!
    And to think I was worried about all those deadly hi-cap mags and EVIL black rifles in my basement, when those cursed folded stockings are only feet away as I sleep!
    And your last line really sums it up perfectly. Why oh why don't they do that?

    Jeff
     
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    Question, I know Illinois does not have a concealed carry permit, but wouldn't that still mean that you are able to carry, just not concealed?
    -Trappy
     
  17. colonel klink

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    Drives me crazy how people that do not live in Illinois seem to know more about Illinois & our gun laws than those of us that live here! Cook County is another animal & should not be confused with the laws of Illinois State. I know that sounds silly but it is true on many, many laws.
    I can travel anywhere down here (southern illinois) with as many guns & ammo, high cap mags, you name it, that I want to. We do have the FOID card but ammo purchases ARE NOT recorded as mentioned earlier. Colonel
     
  18. Bushmaster1313

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    The real crime in New Jersey is the conspiracy between law enforcement, the courts and the legislature to deprive law abiding citizens from obtaining concealed carry permits. Concealed carry permits are theoretically available under statute but the local chiefs of police and the judiciary have discretion to decide whether you really need to carry concealed. This is unconstitutional. Imagine what the liberals would do if adult women had to convince to the local health official and a court why they "needed" an abortion.

    If there is a right to bear arms it cannot be at the whim of the government. This is another example proving that liberal Democrats do not believe in the Constitution. They merely use it when convenient and to their advantage.

    How did it happen that our country is now run by people who hate liberty, think our soldiers are baby killers and compare truly decent and patriotic Americans like President Bush and Dick Cheney to dictatorial monsters?
     
  19. Bill Marsh

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    Well come on down to Georgia! Easy to get a carry license. They DO require a background check and fingerprints, but every person I know who applied got one.

    Our Governor, Sonny Perdue is pro gun. We used to have a "flee if you can" law, meaning if you confront a burglar in your home, you must try to get away from him.

    Sonny's new law. Shoot the burglar.

    In Kennesaw Georgia, just north of Atlanta they passed a law that every head of household had to own a gun. Crime plummeted. There has not been a fatal shooting in 25 years.

    See Kennesaw Georgia's Mandatory Gun Law
    http://www.mcsm.org/kennesaw.html

    Bill
     
  20. Lead Man

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    Klink doesn't that gun have to be safely disassembled or can you carry beside you in the vehicle? Maybe you should load it lay it on the seat beside you and get pulled over by a gung ho leo. Are you sure you won't do some jail time?

    Go ahead and tout those southern Illinois gun friendly laws. Seems all you folks want to tell us we are wrong. Enlighten us with replies to these questions for starters. Then move on and tell us how you can use it for self defense without doing time. Southern part of the state still falls under state laws right. Whle you are at it tell us why at Sparta the first year the Dept. of Homeland Security was called out. 4 jackbooted thugs at each entrance to keep them evil shotguns from leaving the property.

    Tell us how gun friendly the state is again.
     
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