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IBM offered to help reduce Medicare Fraud

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Luckyman, Mar 30, 2011.

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  1. Luckyman

    Luckyman Active Member

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    Anyone that voted for Obamma should be downright ashamed of themselves!! He has got to go!!!


    Subject: IBM offered to help reduce Medicare for free
    IBM offered to help reduce Medicare Fraud for free
    Sam Palmisano, IBM CEO



    What if I told you that the Chairman and CEO of IBM, Samuel J. Palmisano, approached President Obama and members of his administration before the healthcare bill debates with a plan that would reduce healthcare expenditures by $900 billion? Given the Obama Administration’s adamancy that the United States of America simply had to make healthcare (read: health insurance) affordable for even the most dedicated welfare recipient, one would think he would have leaned forward in his chair, cupped his ear and said, “Tell me more!” And what if I told you that the cost to the federal government for this program was nothing, zip, nada, zilch?

    And, what if I told you that, in the end and after two meetings, President Obama and his team, instead of embracing a program that was proven to save money and one that was projected to save almost one trillion dollars ? a private sector program costing the taxpayers nothing, zip, nada, zilch ? said, “Thanks but no thanks” and then embarked on passing one of the most despised pieces of legislation in US history?

    Well, it’s all true.
    see video: http://video.foxnews.com/v/4366002/did-white-house-snub-fraud-fighter/

    Samuel J. Palmisano, the Chairman of the Board and CEO for IBM, said in a recent Wall Street Journalinterview that he offered to provide the Obama Administration with a program that would curb healthcare claims fraud and abuse by almost one trillion dollars but the Obama White House turned the offer down.

    Mr. Palmisano is quoted as saying during a taping (click here to see ) of The Wall Street Journal's Viewpoints program on September 14, 2010:

    "We could have improved the quality and reduced the cost of the healthcare system by $900 billion...I said we would do it for free to prove that it works. They turned us down."

    A second meeting between Mr. Palmisano and the Obama Administration took place two weeks later, with no change in the Obama Administration's stance. A call placed to IBM on October 8, 2010, by FOX News confirmed, via a spokesperson, that Mr Palmisano stands by his statement.

    Speaking with FOX News' Stuart Varney, Mort Zuckerman, Editor-in-Chief of US News & World Report, said,
    "It's a little bit puzzling because I think there is a huge amount of both fraud and inefficiency that American business is a lot more comfortable with and more effective in trying to reduce. And this is certainly true because the IBM people have studied this very carefully. And when Palmisano went to the White House and made that proposal, it was based upon a lot of work and it was not accepted. And it's really puzzling...These are very, very responsible people. They don't have a political ax to grind.. They are very familiar with the subject; they understand exactly what the issues are."

    Given the fact that Mr. Obama’s own Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services actuary debunked the claim that health insurance costs would diminish over the next decade and given that the budget deficits for 2010 and 2011 are in the $1.2 trillion?$1.4 trillion ballpark, the question begs to be asked: Why would Mr. Obama balk at a sure-thing savings of almost $1 trillion?

    Cost projections prepared by economists at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), revealed the nation's healthcare spending, as a share of the economy, will be 0.3 percentage points higher in 2019 than estimated before the law was passed. That CMS report, published September 9, 2010, in the journal Health Affairs, also revealed healthcare spending will grow by an average of 6.3 percent each year over the next decade, whereas pre-reform projections pegged annual growth at 6.1 percent.

    CMS actuaries also say that Medicare cuts mandated by the law are unrealistic and unsustainable. An April 22, 2010, CMS report about the financial and coverage effects of selected provisions of the new law estimates that about 15 percent of hospitals and other healthcare providers could lose money treating Medicare beneficiaries as a result of the proposed cuts.

    And the Congressional Budget Office is projecting that the deficit for the 2010 budget year, which ended Sept. 30, will total $1.29 trillion. The Obama administration has projected that the deficit for the 2011 budget year, which began on Oct. 1, will climb to $1.4 trillion and that over the next decade, it will total $8.47 trillion.

    So, again, I ask you, with the main issue being the economy, including the audacious spending habits of elected officials in Washington DC, why would Mr. Obama and his team balk at facilitating not only the saving of almost $1 trillion in healthcare expenditures, but the opportunity to affect an issue victory in the 2010 midterm election cycle?

    Mr. Zuckerman concluded,

    "When you are in a situation where this country is facing a huge deficit and where anybody who knows anything at all about the healthcare system knows how much waste, fraud and abuse is involved in that system...not to take this offer up, frankly, does not make sense."

    Mr. Zuckerman is correct, but only to a point. It doesn’t make sense if Mr. Obama is trying to reduce waste and fraud, and make health insurance affordable for all Americans. It does make sense if those were never the goals in the first place.

    As I wrote in an article titled, Cloward, Piven & Obamacare,
    “...the goal of the Progressives is to crash the system; to overwhelm the system to such an extent that it fails. It is at this moment of failure that Progressives believe they can enter the situation as the “knight in shining armor.” It is at this particular moment of vulnerability that Progressives believe the American public will acquiesce to the false choice of “something is better than nothing”; to a government-run universal healthcare plan to rescue the devastated American healthcare system, a system Progressives themselves threw into chaos, courtesy of their ridiculous health insurance reform law.

    “As an aside, keeping this plan in mind, it makes perfect sense that Progressives and Liberal Democrats wouldn’t waste their time reading the massive health insurance reform bill. They never intended for it to be around long enough for it to matter.”
    It is one thing to be ? as a good many elected officials in Washington DC are ? arrogant, self-absorbed spendthrifts, so detached from the actualities of what Americans require and want from their government. It is quite another to willfully abuse the system ? and the American people ? in an attempt to bring about and ideological “change” ? a “fundamental transformation” ? of the very system of government that has made the United States the most prosperous nation in the history of the Western Civilization and the last best hope for freedom and liberty for all in the world.

    In Mr. Obama’s shunning of a private sector program that would have saved our country almost $1 trillion in healthcare expenditures, presented to him as he declared a “crisis in healthcare,” he proves two things beyond any doubt: that he is anti-Capitalist and anti-private sector in nature and that he can no longer be trusted to tell the truth in both his political declarations or espoused goals.
     
  2. Luckyman

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    UP....
     
  3. porky

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    The gov't needs the mony to put in the slush fund for other projects. All the healthcare money isn't going to go for healthcare. As far as politicans are concered it belongs in their pockets
     
  4. recurvyarcher

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    easy link
     
  5. Hawk46

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    Googled this up. Offers some additional perspective from another blogger.

    Dave

    Last week Fox Business News reported, and an IBM spokesman confirmed,  that Sam Palmisano, CEO of IBM,  told Barack Obama that IBM had carefully studied the Medicare fraud issue and estimated the actual 10 year problem to be closer to $900B – that’s billion with a B — over ten years.  Mr. Palmisano believes so strongly in both IBM’s numbers and IBM’s potential solution that he offered to “build” the  solution for “free”.  Fox reported that Barack Obama turned down this offer.  

    Can you imagine, an American CEO of an American corporation offers a solution that could, potentially, save 90% of the projected health care reform deficit and the President of the United States turned down the offer? I was astounded – so astounded that I knew I needed to verify the story before I gave full vent to my frustration.  So I Googled “IBM Medicare fraud”.    Turns out that it’s true!  IBM confirmed it. 

    There is no mystery here.  Health care is a great business opportunity for IBM.  IBM Health Care Practice works with partners every day in both the United States and Europe to improve the use of technology to simultaneously reduce the cost of delivering health care and improve health care outcomes.  

    It is important to examine my Palmisano’s language carefully.   He offered to “build” the solution for free to “prove” it worked.  He never said, IBM didn’t want to be paid if it worked.  He was willing to “share the risk”.  That has been a standard practice in business for years!  Time that we adopted these money saving practices in the government as well. 

    Why would the President turned down such an offer?  Certainly he knows that all major technology initiatives in federal government are done by private contract vendors?   So what’s up?

    1. Most benignly, he does not want to appear to promote one federal vendor over others?  That can easily be dealt with in the contracting process – requiring IBM to partner with other major software and hardware vendors to develop an “open source” solution. 

    2. Can it be the President, who has no business experience,  does not understand the concept “investing in a new business opportunity”?    Mr. Palmisano is not an altruist.  Successfully ending Medicare fraud would further strengthen IBM’s “qualifications” as a global health care solutions provider.  This would be worth billions in new profits to IBM and its partners.

    3. Can it be possible that the President really has such a deep-seated distrust of business and business executives that he cannot imagine a CEO can be a patriot at the same time that he is responsible for producing share holder value? 

    4. Could the President fear that accepting this offer might be seen as a public rebuke of the team at Medicare, who are all SEIU or AFGE members?  Could he be concerned that such a perception would have political ramifications as he looks to government union support in his 2012 Presidential election?

    Based on CBS and the New York Times reporting, I can think of a half dozen “quick hit” changes to the existing Medicare payment process that would produce billions in potential Medicare fraud savings.  

    So,  its easy for me to believe that the full force of IBM, IBM partners,  the Medicare staff, and the FBI could eliminate $900B in Medicare fraud over the next decade.

    Personally, I believe that Mr. Palmisano is acting both as a patriot and a good CEO.   Mr. Obama, what do you have to lose?  M
     
  6. halfmile

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    You can't collapse the country if you keep improving things.

    I have to go beat my head against the wall now in time for breakfast. We are just about all the way through the looking glass.

    HM
     
  7. birdogs

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    Halofmile,

    Im agree that the collapse of the US is Obama's goal. Not a complete collape but a reduction of our wealth, prosperity, arrogance and power. We should NOT be bigger, or richer or more powerful than anyone else. THAT"S community organizing at its finest!
     
  8. Luckyman

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    I didn't really believe it would be possible that the leader of the free world would try and collapse the US economy to carry out his Marxist ambitions but I can really see it!! People in this country need to wake up fast!!!
     
  9. hoot619

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    If he still around to run again maybe this is one of the platforms he will use to bring in votes. He wants to spend not save. His new electric car rebate plan could be used a lot more in the regular car (gas) over 35 mpg market .A lot of us can't afford the Volt or whatever they are called. Ken U
     
  10. Hawk46

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    This idiot and his flunkies should, indeed, be ashamed. It's clear that he has his own political agenda that's directed simply and purely at getting reelected. Letting IBM or a consortium of private companies get the job done is misaligned with his philosophy of big government and a need to play the role of hero and savior. Reducing the number of government employees and creating jobs in the private sector such as would result from such an approach is NOT part of his socialist agenda.

    I'm further surprised that the GOP kept such a low profile on this after the story broke, given that it represented such a low-cost approach to reducing fraud.

    Rather, it now appears that any solution will require that we dig into our wallets yet again.

    I am no longer amazed at any decisions that come out of the Whitehouse. It has become normal for me to expect the worst as opposed to expecting positive change to emerge, at least occassionally. Sad.

    Dave
     
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    Shame, you mention VOLT-a 40K dollar car that has been touted for 5 years,only needs a battery,so say GM, to date is the same as 5 years ago, goes 50 miles on electric then on gas engine.
    As far as obama, his intent is to destroy our system and govt, everything he does supports that, name one thing,one plan to save money, save our country, protect our citizens, anything, HE IS A PAID ASSASSIN DOING WHAT HE WAS PAID TO DO! Lee
     
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    IMPEACH
     
  14. Luckyman

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    Sam Palmisano exports as many US jobs overseas as any other CEO that pays himself 25 million dollars a year. He is not the PATRIOT he is being painted up to be.
    He may have offered to do a great thing, but his hands arent clean either.
     
  16. Luckyman

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    Not the point here....He offered to solve a problem only someone in his position can do and our monkey in chief turned him down for a government solution that will equal disaster for our healthcare system...A solution that was FREE!!!!
     
  17. dt10john

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    Well IBM also developed the system to catalog the jews for Hitler.. Does that make Trilateral Sam a hero?


    John Tomlin
     
  18. JohnBT

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    IBM had subsidiaries and operations in 70 countries in the 1930s. Do you know the name of the German subsidiary? I can't even think of the name of that hack job of a book that was written on the subject.
     
  19. Hawk46

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    "IBM and the Holocaust".

    Subsidiary was Deomag (sp?). They used the Hollerith punch card system to do the cataloging.

    Guess business is business.

    Dave
     
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    I guess business is business when $$$$ is the bottom line..

    Trilateral Sam offering Barry Sotoro(our presidents real name) help.

    Hahahahahahaha!

    John
     
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