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"I won't raise your taxes!" ROFLMAO

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by JBrooks, Apr 1, 2009.

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  1. JBrooks

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    "I won

    By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writer –

    "WASHINGTON – One of President Barack Obama's campaign pledges on taxes went up in puffs of smoke Wednesday.

    The largest increase in tobacco taxes took effect despite Obama's promise not to raise taxes of any kind on families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000.

    This is one tax that disproportionately affects the poor, who are more likely to smoke than the rich.

    To be sure, Obama's tax promises in last year's campaign were most often made in the context of income taxes. Not always.

    "I can make a firm pledge," he said in Dover, N.H., on Sept. 12. "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    He repeatedly vowed "you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime."

    Now in office, Obama, who stopped smoking but has admitted he slips now and then, signed a law raising the tobacco tax nearly 62 cents on a pack of cigarettes, to $1.01. Other tobacco products saw similarly steep increases."
     
  2. H82MIS

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    j,,thanks for all that info,,but I believe I've kinda sorta figured out HE'S A LYING SOB !!!!!
     
  3. jcw62

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    Starting Wednesday, the federal excise tax on a pack of cigarettes will increase 62 cents to $1.01.

    Harder hit is loose tobacco. The federal excise tax on a pound of roll-your-own tobacco increases from $1.10 to $24.78.

    Wayne Stache, who was buying a bag of loose tobacco Wednesday at Puff N Snuff on Wayne Avenue in Chambersburg, called the tax hike "ridiculous." He said he buys his own tobacco because it's cheaper to roll his own cigarettes, but now that's not the case.

    "I'll probably quit," he said.

    The new tax means a $12 bag of tobacco will cost $37 beginning Wednesday. Smokers who roll their own cigarettes have been stocking up on tobacco before the new tax takes effect.


    People haven't seen anything yet as far as taxes goes, once revenue goes down on Tobacco next will be raising the federal tax on gasoline which is 18.4 cents to over a dollar a gallon and it has already been talked about.
     
  4. stokinpls

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    And the "$13 a week" he gave us is just a tax credit that you'll have to put on your income tax form next Spring and pay taxes on. Funny part is, about 80% of the folks that voted for the annointed one won't even get the "$13" because they don't work. LOL
     
  5. Paladin

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    Hussein didn't stop smoking, he stopped buying. Leech off of others. It's always been his way of life, and the liberal way of life.
     
  6. Trappy12

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    This is hilarious! You guys are trying to form a connection between Obama's promise to not raise INCOME taxes and how he raised TOBACCO taxes? Really? This is a voluntary tax, you are NOT required to pay it. It is completely your CHOICE as to whether or not you wish to pay this tax. And it's as you guys say, shouldn't the poor pull themselves up by their own bootstraps in the first place? So if they pull themselves up and start living the American dream, then they don't have to deal with the increased tobacco tax either. The way you guys should see it is more motivation for them to decide to stop being poor.
    -Trappy
     
  7. jcw62

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    Trappy I suggest you take some time and research cap and trade and come back and tell us that it will be voluntary....and when they get ready to increase the federal income tax on a gallon of gas from 18.4 cents to over a dollar a gallon then come back and tell us that is voluntary....friggen liberal idiot..
     
  8. ButchB

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    This is just the beginning.I think it's time for another "tea party".
    Butch
     
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    Trappy's just an immature little kid without an once of intelligence or common sense. My 11 year grandson has more common sense than Trappy.
     
  10. JBrooks

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    Poor under-educated Trappy. Get someone to read and explain this to you.

    "I can make a firm pledge," he said in Dover, N.H., on Sept. 12. "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    "not any of your taxes"

    "not any of your taxes"

    "not any of your taxes"

    Income taxes aren't mandatory either, just don't work.

    Capital gains taxes aren't mandatory, just don't sell you investments.

    Inheritance taxes aren't mandatory, just don't die.
     
  11. bigdogtx

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    Poor trappy,,,,you are having to TRY to defend your hero and the rest of the libs that were here before the election have just run away and left you not much support,,,,keep trying.....
     
  12. 90Tshooter

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    JBrooks, you're right on the money!

    Trappy, If BHO taxes ammo $100 a box will you have the same reaction. Shooting is voluntary. You don't have to pay it, just don't shoot.

    Joe
     
  13. highflyer

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    He is a tax and spend communist. Liberals are so hard to understand. They want to legalize drugs but stop smoking. If smokers were smart they would bypass the government and start a black market for smokers. I am sure there is a price that will make that happen. Apparently we haven't reached it yet. I can see liberals now releasing drug dealers to make room for those selling tobacco illegally. We are living in insane times with insane leaders with Obama as the idiot in charge.
     
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    Trappy - You are by far the biggest example of blind liberal ignorance I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Obammy is just a lying, get it done in the dark of night, promise breaking, do it my way because I'm smarter, over educated, never made a payroll communist that has come down the pike and you continue to worship at his feet.

    Let me ask you a question; How many Hitler Youth daggers do you own?
     
  15. highflyer

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    You always have young stupid college students behind revolutions. They always later regret what they have created, after it is too late. They are so easy to manipulate.
     
  16. drh08

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    I don't like the marriage of taxes and tobacco, it's a scam and what you will hear from politicians is a scam also. The increase in the tax was to expand medical coverage from my understanding. Then we get to listen to a politician say they hope this increase stops people from smoking. You can't have everything, they fund things with the taxes and don't want you to quit because they already spent the money. On the other hand it is a voluntary tax, you don't have to pay.
    I would like to see everyone that smokes stop!! or get it someplace else. I don't want another dime of tobacco money heading to states or the Fed. Think how cranky everyone will be, the smokers in withdrawl, and now everyone else that has to pay for what tobacco taxes used to pay for.
    I am tired of people saying they are doing it to make you stop, it's a lie and if they wanted you to stop, tax it at $1000.00 per pack and don't subsidize the tobacco growers.

    Just my take, this has nothing to do with any ones health they are looking out for, or they would attack over weight people as they cost us more than a smoker.

    PS, I don't smoke and it pisses me off!
     
  17. H82MIS

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    drh, if your pissed off about cig. taxes you damn sure ain't gonna like this,,

    if this passes through those C-------S-------ers in congress on capitol hill I predict this straw will break the camels back,,,,,,HOLD ON!!! (stock up now)

    4/2/09 H.R. 40


    H.R. 40 is a bill in the U.S. House of Representatives to create a commission to study reparation proposals for African-Americans.

    The bill is to acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery, subsequently de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.

    It should be no surprise, that its sponsor is Rep. John Conyers, Democrat from Michigan -- and he has an ally in the White House.

    In this transcript of a 2001 radio interview, Obama advocates redistribution as reparations for slavery and other injustices towards "previously dispossessed peoples."

    He said, "the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent as radical as people tried to characterize the Warren court, it wasn’t that radical."

    "It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it’s been interpreted, and the Warren court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can’t do to you, it says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn’t shifted."

    "One of the, I think tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributed change and in some ways we still suffer from that."

    In ObamaWorld, a terrorist attack is a "man caused disaster" and reparations are called a "stimulus package."
     
  18. Trappy12

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    Yes JBrooks, now look at it in context. Clearly, he was referring to unvoluntary taxes. And if taxes on ammo is raised obviously I will not be happy, but still it is a voluntary tax. Whether or not I like it is besides the point. There is NO connection to his promise to not raise income taxes.
    -Trappy
     
  19. Milkbone

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    I Won't Raise Your Taxes.

    Trappy is a genius- the mod made me say that.
     
  20. KEYBEAR

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    Under my plan you will not pay one dime more in tax,s if you make $250,000 or less . Kind of sounded like no NEW tax to me ??
     
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