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I WANT SOME SANDBAGGING HISTORY?

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  1. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    were the heck did the word sandbagger come from and how did it apply to sports. lol
     
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    sandbag (n.) Look up sandbag at Dictionary.com

    1590, from sand + bag. The verb sense of "pretend weakness" is 1970s, extended from poker-playing sense of "refrain from raising at the first opportunity in hopes of raising more steeply later" (1940), which perhaps is from sandbagger in the sense of "bully or ruffian who uses a sandbag as a weapon to knock his intended victim unconscious" (1882).

    We use the term as a verb; # verb: downplay one's ability (towards others) in a game in order to deceive, as in gambling.

    Looks like it started in poker games (check raising & check calling), in my search it was referenced in races (running), tennis, golf, disc sports (go figure), and more.

    This is just the start -- you know others are going to add on to this!
     
  3. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    pirnaha2, that's funny. that is great info. never new that
     
  4. foghorn220

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    SMsnyder it is a british thing they even got a tv show about it if you don't believe me then here is the info.

    The Sandbaggers is a British television drama series about men and women on the front lines of the Cold War. Set contemporaneously with its original broadcast on ITV in 1978 and 1980, The Sandbaggers examines the effect of the espionage game on the personal and professional lives of British and American intelligence specialists.

    The protagonist is Neil Burnside (played by Roy Marsden), Director of Operations in Britain's Secret Intelligence Service (also known as MI6, although the name "MI6" is never uttered in the series). Burnside oversees a small, elite group of British intelligence officers: the Special Operations Section, nicknamed the "Sandbaggers." This group is composed of highly trained officers whose work includes dangerous missions that tend to be politically sensitive or especially vital, such as escorting defectors across borders, carrying out assassinations, or rescuing other operatives who are in trouble behind the Iron Curtain.

    Why the group was called the Sandbaggers was not explained in the context of the show, but it may have to do with putting up sandbags as a defense against an incoming flood. To "sandbag" someone also means to coerce him through heavy-handed means or to misrepresent one's position to gain an advantage.

    In the series, the United States Central Intelligence Agency and SIS have a cooperative agreement to share intelligence. The Sandbaggers depicts SIS as so under-funded that it has become dependent on the CIA. Burnside consequently goes to great lengths to preserve the "special relationship" between the CIA and SIS -- most notably in the episode of the same name. The personal price he pays in that episode sparks an obsession with the safety of his Sandbaggers and the survival of the Special Section in subsequent episodes, contributing to Burnside's gradual psychological unraveling and the series's unresolved cliffhanger ending
     
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    maybe i shoud hit the shooter over the head with a sandbag who's beating me. lol
     
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    Another explanation i found had to do with hot air balloons. the sand bags being used as ballast...or to hold one back. If this being true...it would get us back to ...what? the late 1700s? Sometime around the Montgolfier brothers.

    I love etymology.
     
  7. smsnyder

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    p3at, that's funny
     
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    up, interesting
     
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    A case of postus mixupus?

    Im guessing ya meant smsnyder..hehehe

    Im a poor non-classified PITA boy stuck in B class.
     
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    It started with Poker, no one likes a sand bagger in a poker game,too hard to figure out.
     
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    sand·bag(sndbg)
    n.
    A bag filled with sand and used as ballast, in the formation of protective walls, or as a weapon.
    v. sand·bagged, sand·bag·ging, sand·bags
    v.tr.
    1. To put sandbags in or around.
    2. To hit with a sandbag.
    3. Slang
    a. To treat severely or unjustly.
    b. To force by crude means; coerce: sandbagged us into cleaning up their mess.
    c. To downplay or misrepresent one's ability in a game or activity in order to deceive (someone), especially in gambling: sandbagged the pool player by playing poorly in the first game when stakes were low.
    v.intr. Slang
    To downplay or misrepresent one's ability in order to deceive someone, especially in gambling.
     
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    foogy,in the brit show,sandbager refered to haveing a license to kill,,,,,in the show only 3 or 4 of the opps section were sandbaggers
     
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    This option might put an end to it.

    Berettaman7
     
  14. berettaman7

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    Otherwise they could be given an award.

    Berettaman7
     
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