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  1. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

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    I understan what Brad Dysinger and the OSTA's decision on the add'l trophies, just look at this there were 58 Grand American Singles given to Champions +

    There were 148 more trophies given to the new ATA Made up Winners.


    There were a total of 206 trophies given + or - I may not have counted exactly, but that is close.

    So why not just give every body a trophy.

    And this was just the Singles Championship on Wednesday, now how much money did they cost the ATA, How much money would it hhave cost the OSTA and any other State Shoot to offer those extra trophies?

    This is the major reason the OSTA refused to offer those awards.

    You have to take all of the events into consideration. I am proud of the OSTA's decision.

    Gary Bryant
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  2. shoot em all

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    Hampton will have sub sub this and that like skeet and everyone will get a medal. jim w
     
  3. running bear

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    Longs?t running down the ATA again and which he does't even shoot. Longsh?t, How much do Flashlights cost? Isn't that what Ohio gave out a couple of years ago?

    Go back to your games and leave the ATA alone if you are not going to shoot in it!

    Buck
     
  4. trapshooteraa27aa

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    Funny how DR Longblow always tries to quote what some one else says. Living in someones shawdow is sad.
     
  5. BD457

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    No trophy for The Key Grip? What's the world comming to?
     
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    Maybe it's just me but, the medallion awards are not the equivalent of a trophy. I believe it was a low cost way of giving more people a chance to bring something home from the biggest shoot they will attend in any year, for many, in their lives. Most of what is pasted above and counted by LS up top is a result of these Medallion Awards.

    Maybe I'm wrong about it; if they disappeared I don't think it would be any big deal. What's wrong with it as long as it doesn't cost a material amount?
    They aren't program type trophies.
     
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    RWT - LQQK At the bottom - you won something too!

    Subject: I understand what Brad Dysinger said about
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    Didn't count but don't you think this is a little much?

    CHAMPION CAMPBELL JR HARLAN TRIBUNE KS 200 RUNNER UP LAMONT PATRICK R BRANDON MB 200 THIRD PLACE MCCAULEY ETHAN C DUNCAN OK 200 CLASS AAA WINNER SHAEFFER JR DAVID REISTERSTOWN MD 200 CLASS AAA RUNNER UP BRINGELSON DENIS L NEW RAYMER CO 200 CLASS AAA 3RD PLACE KUBASCH NICK J NEW GERMANY MN 200 CLASS AAA 4TH PLACE ZBOROVSKY ANDREW A TRAFFORD PA 200 CLASS AAA 5TH PLACE VENDEL CHRIS ROCHESTER NY 200 CLASS AA WINNER KESLER STEVE B CALGARY AB 200 CLASS AA RUNNER UP COX BARRY G MORGANTOWN KY 200 CLASS AA 3RD PLACE OSTRANDER GERRY D LOCKE NY 199 CLASS AA 4TH PLACE KLEYLA THOMAS E TIPTON IN 199 CLASS AA 5TH PLACE SCHAFFER JR DONALD NEWTOWN PA 199 CLASS A WINNER MCCLELLAND SCOTT P TUCSON AZ 199 CLASS A RUNNER UP WORRELL DOUGLAS G MIDLAND PA 199 CLASS A 3RD PLACE HUFFMAN GILBERT P GASTON IN 198 CLASS A 4TH PLACE MAVIS DICK LINCOLN NE 198 CLASS A 5TH PLACE SONDAG TONY HARLAN IA 198 CLASS B WINNER MAXWELL JOHN F STANAGE QLD AUSTRA MC 198 CLASS B RUNNER UP OAKS SHARRED T VERNAL UT 198 CLASS B 3RD PLACE MARVIER LAWRENCE J NOVATO CA 198 CLASS B 4TH PLACE MILLER III JACK O FT WORTH TX 197 CLASS B 5TH PLACE SWINGER JOE L SAN ANTONIO TX 197 CLASS C WINNER MCDUFFEY LARRY E ANADARKO OK 198 CLASS C RUNNER UP BUETTGENBACH BILL OMAHA NE 197 CLASS C 3RD PLACE MALONE JUSTIN BRANCHVILLE NJ 196 CLASS C 4TH PLACE SPALDING DAVID G HOLTS SUMMIT MO 196 CLASS C 5TH PLACE LANDGRAF BECCY S GARDEN CITY KS 195 CLASS D WINNER COX KENNETH R OXFORD NC 194 CLASS D RUNNER UP MCCARTHY DENNIS A STRATFORD CT 193 CLASS D 3RD PLACE RATCLIFFE MICRAY LONE GROVE OK 191 CLASS D 4TH PLACE SMITH WALKER FAYETTEVILLE AR 191 CLASS D 5TH PLACE WHITE GRANT P CONCORD CA 191 SUB JUNIOR WINNER WIENEKE JACOB E SEYMOUR IN 199 SUB JUNIOR RUNNER UP COOPER TANNER J GREENWOOD AR 199 SUB JUNIOR 3RD PLACE SULLIVAN BRANDON ARLINGTON IN 199 JUNIOR WINNER FETZIK NICK PENGILLY MN 200 JUNIOR RUNNER UP LARSON BENJAMIN R ELBERT CO 199 JUNIOR 3RD PLACE STROHECKER DREW PEARL CITY IL 199 JUNIOR GOLD WINNER HOFER NATHAN WAYNE HURON SD 199 JUNIOR GOLD RUNNER UP PARROTT KEITH W LONDON KY 199 JUNIOR GOLD 3RD PLACE VARBLE TIM J JERSEYVILLE IL 199 SUB VETERAN WINNER STOCKDALE DALE ACKLEY IA 200 SUB VETERAN RUNNER UP KROHN ROBERT E CARMEL IN 199 SUB VETERAN 3RD PLACE RADWAY ALLAN R SUNDRE AB 199 VETERAN WINNER SCHEONROCK ROBERT FORT GRATIOT MI 200 VETERAN RUNNER UP CARNEAL RONALD BLAIRSTOWN MO 199 VETERAN 3RD PLACE MCCONNELL RONALD J BROOKS AB 199 SR. VETERAN WINNER WYATT DON S SCOTTSVILLE KY 199 SR VETERAN RUNNER UP DOWNHAM WAYNE E CAMDEN IN 199 SR VETERAN 3RD PLACE WILLIAMS DOYNE DR LITTLE ROCK AR 199 LADY 1 WINNER BRINGELSON STACY J NEW RAYMER CO 199 LADY 1 RUNNER UP MUELLER LAUREN N PLAINVIEW IL 199 LADY 1 3RD PLACE ROSS NORA WILMORE KY 198 LADY 2 WINNER WEHINGER CATHY MONROE WI 197 LADY 2 RUNNER UP THOMPSON MARY C CANTON OH 197 LADY 2 3RD PLACE RIGLER JANICE ROCK FALLS IL 196 CHAIR SHOOTER WINNER TKACZENKO ZIGGY TEXICO IL 195 CHAIR SHOOTER RUNNER UP FOSTER JAMES H DUNCANVILLE TX 193

    MEDALLION AWARDS SUB JUNIOR CLASS AAA WINNER GERLICH DALE ELIZABETH IL 198 SUB JUNIOR CLASS AAA RUNNER UP ROWTON WES AUSTIN AR 195 SUB JUNIOR CLASS AAA 3RD PLACE SCROGIN AUSTIN CORNING AR 192 SUB JUNIOR CLASS AA WINNER WEILBACHER ANNA LEONA VALLEY CA 199 SUB JUNIOR CLASS AA RUNNER UP JACKSON COLE M HILLSDALE WY 197 SUB JUNIOR CLASS AA 3RD PLACE GRYBOWSKI CORBIN ARAPAH OK 197 SUB JUNIOR CLASS A WINNER VEGA MATTHEW MIAMI FL 197 SUB JUNIOR CLASS A RUNNER UP SKOGEN DENTON J CASPER WY 196 SUB JUNIOR CLASS A 3RD PLACE RECLA IAN L MAHANOY PLANE PA 195 SUB JUNIOR CLASS B WINNER PROFFITT DALTON C MANCHESTER TN 194 SUB JUNIOR CLASS B RUNNER UP BOLIN TAYLOR MURFREESBORO TN 192 SUB JUNIOR CLASS B 3RD PLACE KAISER JOSHUA T JONESBORO AR 191 SUB JUNIOR CLASS C WINNER CARLSON BRADLEY B DELAVAN WI 194 SUB JUNIOR CLASS C RUNNER UP WONDOLOFSKI KADE S JERSEYVILLE IL 192 SUB JUNIOR CLASS C 3RD PLACE NITZ TRACER B GREAT FALLS MT 191 SUB JUNIOR CLASS D WINNER MARTIN HANNAH R PEKIN IL 183 SUB JUNIOR CLASS D RUNNER UP KEMPEL KYLE M FARGO ND 182 SUB JUNIOR CLASS D 3RD PLACE WINKEL BRADLEY J KENNEWICK WA 182 JUNIOR CLASS AAA WINNER RUCKER LEE E TINA MO 198 JUNIOR CLASS AAA RUNNER UP FORTINO ANTHONY T KANKAKEE IL 198 JUNIOR CLASS AAA 3RD PLACE SLATER JUSTIN T PHELPS NY 198 JUNIOR CLASS AA WINNER HALDORSON KEIVER K HAMILTON MT 199 JUNIOR CLASS AA RUNNER UP VENDEL CHRISTOPHER ONTARIO NY 198 JUNIOR CLASS AA 3RD PLACE LANIK WYATT HICKMAN NE 198 JUNIOR CLASS A WINNER SMITH EVAN MANCHESTER TN 192 JUNIOR CLASS A RUNNER UP NARVICK ANDREW A MORRIS IL 192 JUNIOR CLASS A 3RD PLACE BIRKELAND SAM K BALDWIN ND 190 JUNIOR CLASS B WINNER COHEN DAVID A LOS ANGELES CA 195 JUNIOR CLASS B RUNNER UP NAGEL CHRIS A MITCHELL SD 195 JUNIOR CLASS B 3RD PLACE GLOW RYAN T OMAHA NE 194 JUNIOR CLASS C WINNER TAYLOR JUSTICE E HOBBS NM 195 JUNIOR CLASS C RUNNER UP RENTSCHLER ANDREW ALEXANDRIA MN 193 JUNIOR CLASS C 3RD PLACE CLARKE JOSEPH A STOCKTON NJ 188 JUNIOR CLASS D WINNER TIEFENHALER AUSTIN HOLSTEIN IA 187 JUNIOR CLASS D RUNNER UP WOOD WEBB TORI M RICHARDSON TX 186 JUNIOR CLASS D 3RD PLACE LINK SARA A OSCEOLA WI 186 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS AAA WINNER FAHMIE BLAKE J CONCORD CA 198 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS AAA RUNNER U TANGSRUD CODY J MCGREGOR ND 198 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS AAA 3RD PLAC FLEAY JOSH BUSSELTON AUSTRALI MC 196 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS AA WINNER SCHWAB ANDREW CARLINVILLE IL 198 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS AA RUNNER UP REHOR ADAM E KIRK CO 197 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS AA 3RD PLACE ONEILL CIARAN T WHITEFISH MT 196 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS A WINNER STOUT CODY M EATON CO 197 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS A RUNNER UP BOSH PATRICK J GRAND FORKS ND 196 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS A 3RD PLACE RICHARDSON SHANE COLORADO SPRINGS CO 194 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS B WINNER DAVIDSON LEE TIPP CITY OH 196 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS B RUNNER UP GILMER DREW E MANCHESTER TN 194 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS B 3RD PLACE ONAK JR WALTER K PLATTSMOUTH NE 191 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS C WINNER WRAY JAMES E TRUMANN AR 187 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS C RUNNER UP GRIFFIN FREDDIE W TRENTON MO 184 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS C 3RD PLACE SAVELY RYAN D WOODWARD OK 175 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS D WINNER JEFFERY GREGORY T LINCOLN NE 183 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS D RUNNER UP MONTGOMERY LUKE J DUQUOIN IL 181 JUNIOR GOLD CLASS D 3RD PLACE SUB VETERAN CLASS AAA WINNER WILLIAMS GERRY PARADISE VALLEY AZ 199 SUB VETERAN CLASS AAA RUNNER U KELLY GARY BULLER WESTERN AUS MC 199 SUB VETERAN CLASS AAA 3RD PLAC ISOM WYNN R CEDAR CITY UT 199 SUB VETERAN CLASS AA WINNER BROOKS THOMAS K ST PAUL MN 199 SUB VETERAN CLASS AA RUNNER UP PAYNE FRANK E PATOKA IL 199 SUB VETERAN CLASS AA 3RD PLACE BIANCO VINCE L CHANDLER AZ 198 SUB VETERAN CLASS A WINNER JOHNSTON KENNETH E JUNCTION CITY KS 198 SUB VETERAN CLASS A RUNNER UP LYONS JIM VIRGINIA IL 197 SUB VETERAN CLASS A 3RD PLACE ROBILIO JAY S CORDOVA TN 196 SUB VETERAN CLASS B WINNER TUCKER MICHAEL J ROGERS AR 197 SUB VETERAN CLASS B RUNNER UP THOMASON PAT A WICHITA FALLS TX 197 SUB VETERAN CLASS B 3RD PLACE DIEDRICH EVAN L STERLING IL 196 SUB VETERAN CLASS C WINNER THOMAS II HOWARD D WHITESTOWN IN 192 SUB VETERAN CLASS C RUNNER UP KALSOW RICK ARNOLDS PARK IA 191 SUB VETERAN CLASS C 3RD PLACE DAVIS DAN D ASSUMPTION IL 191 SUB VETERAN CLASS D WINNER BOYER KENNETH A MILLERSPORT OH 191 SUB VETERAN CLASS D RUNNER UP KNIGHT MICHAEL D PENSACOLA FL 186 SUB VETERAN CLASS D 3RD PLACE GOERNER SKIP FRUITLAND PARK FL 186 VETERAN CLASS AAA WINNER WALKER DEAN S GRAND RAPIDS MN 199 VETERAN CLASS AAA RUNNER UP BUMSTED LARRY ELDORA IA 199 VETERAN CLASS AAA 3RD PLACE RIDDLE DAVID FRANKFORT KY 198 VETERAN CLASS AA WINNER BERLET DAVID L NEW KNOXVILLE OH 199 VETERAN CLASS AA RUNNER UP BROWN JR VERNON J PUEBLO WEST CO 198 VETERAN CLASS AA 3RD PLACE HAZLETT WM W SARVER PA 198 VETERAN CLASS A WINNER FINDLEY CLYDE W MASON OH 197 VETERAN CLASS A RUNNER UP JOHNSON BOB WICHITA FALLS TX 196 VETERAN CLASS A 3RD PLACE KEELEY STEVEN D WATERLOO WI 196 VETERAN CLASS B WINNER CARTER MARVIN D MT ZION IL 196 VETERAN CLASS B RUNNER UP KOCMIT OTTO III TWINSBURG OH 195 VETERAN CLASS B 3RD PLACE BENEDICT DARWIN D YUMA CO 194 VETERAN CLASS C WINNER DEJONGE RICHARD WALKER MI 193 VETERAN CLASS C RUNNER UP RUSSELL DAVID J FLORENCE MA 191 VETERAN CLASS C 3RD PLACE BEARDEN RAY CAMDEN AR 191 VETERAN CLASS D WINNER GORON DAVID W MIDDLEVILLE MI 189 VETERAN CLASS D RUNNER UP TERRY ROBERT R FRANKLIN TN 189 VETERAN CLASS D 3RD PLACE OSBORNE DOUGLAS MADELIA MN 186 SR VETERAN CLASS AAA WINNER OHYE KAY N BRUNSWICK NJ 198 SR VETERAN CLASS AAA RUNNER UP JORDAN MIKE MORO IL 198 SR VETERAN CLASS AAA 3RD PLACE KOSIBA LOU L WAITE PARK MN 198 SR VETERAN CLASS AA WINNER STINSON JR CALVIN PROSPECT HARBOR ME 198 SR VETERAN CLASS AA RUNNER UP JONES KENNETH J QUINCY IL 197 SR VETERAN CLASS AA 3RD PLACE SAUNDERS KEITH J PORT DOVER ON 197 SR VETERAN CLASS A WINNER HOLMAN TOM WICHITA KS 196 SR VETERAN CLASS A RUNNER UP MARSHALL WALT MARTINEZ CA 195 SR VETERAN CLASS A 3RD PLACE HOFFMAN DONALD D HILLSDALE MI 195 SR VETERAN CLASS B WINNER TRAYNOR JAMES J LADY LAKE FL 197 SR VETERAN CLASS B RUNNER UP KRACH GEORGE A HAZEL CREST IL 196 SR 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  8. Setterman

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    LOL..."cut and paste award"

    BTW. On RJ Stuarts demographics, Ohio was ranked 4th in Shooter attendance.

    HMMMM.
     
  9. jim brown

    jim brown Well-Known Member

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    Dysinger didn't get a trophy either. He doesn't appear to be there. Can't believe a Hall of Fame member would miss the Grand.
     
  10. Two Dogs

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    The ATA went from saying that these new categories wouldn't cost the clubs anymore more money..Well guess what...all of these trinkets cost money, and guess where that money comes from?......US... the shooters...
     
  11. Calkidd

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    What gets me is that Dr. L only post this to stir the pot with no other agenda. You're a fake and a phony. I would rather hear your nonsense ramblings about your new CG Challenger and how its your next bad ass gun than you trying to attack the ATA.

    Bryan
     
  12. trapbanker

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    dr longshot is a gay drama queen..that must create drama to feed
     
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    If Brad doesn't shoot much ATA anymore why does he want to be in the same category as DR Longshot and run down the ATA?
     
  14. rustygun

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    Some of the same guys that tell everyone, "Practice to compete with the big dogs" want a trophy for showing up. Who are you going to brag to with most of those trophies?
     
  15. Jawhawker

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    Dr. L, so without calling, emailing, texting , etc., precisely how many awards did osta not offer that were new this year? I didn' t think so!
     
  16. foghorn220

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    Wow I got a head ache from re reading the post that RWT made after it was reposted I thought I had missed something.
    Ok my eyes are hurting now had to take them out to relax for a bit!!


    Foghorn
     
  17. X2 fan

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    All those awards is where the extra dollar daily fee increase went to. I agree it becoming WAY TOO MUCH like skeet with all the sub sub this and whatever else they dream up. Whose idea was it to bring Hampton in anyway?

    Tim
     
  18. jim brown

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    According to ATA shooter information he has not shot any registered targets this target year. Doesn't seem like a fair amount to me but I guess you count a little different in Ohio.

    jim brown
     
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    The world of trapshooting is a very interesting place.
    I suspect most of the shooters (how many total??)went because they love to shoot and wanted to compete. Money, prizes, awards, trinkets for the most part are just the frosting on the cake. The experience and memories will last longer than anything else and the recognition of shooting ability by your peers is the award with the most meaning for all but the most jaded competitors. I have to guess the ATA decided what they were going to award... I also am sure that those that competed did so for pure enjoyment more than the expectation of money, medals and glory. I read everyones opinions and accept them for what they are... personal opinions.... I am fairly sure that the ATA or any other organization puts on a show they believe the majority of the shooters want. If that proves to not be the case I am pretty sure they will go a different direction....... Larry
     
  20. oleolliedawg

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    James Brown and most of you naysayers-I doubt you're qualified to carry Brad's shell bag. It's even more obvious the ATA should be renamed the Amateur Trinket Shooters Association!!
     
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