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I hope they're not stupid

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by halfmile, Aug 21, 2009.

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  1. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    I hope they

    Latest ploy by the Pelosi Witch and our Fearless Messiah:

    Let's get out there and beat the bushes amongst the churchgoers, and convince them it's immoral not to support their takeover of the health care industry. I sincerely hope not too many of the God Fearing fall for it.

    There will have to be a special place in Hell for these snake oil sellers, and I would love to be there with a pitchfork. (just for a visit, of course).

    This is lower than whaleshit (bottom of the ocean).

    Our country's Presidency and administration has been lowered to a political cesspool, and now they want to become Jimmy Swaggart to get their filthy means aoccomplished.

    Oh, yes, one more thing:

    24 million in lobby money for TV ads to push the package. Definitely not ethical, and I wonder about the legality.

    By the way, Who's running the country while they are all so busy?

    HM
     
  2. School Teacher

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    I do not understand how you espouse morality in health care yet support abortion rights, same sex marriage and denial of care to older persons.

    Ed Ward
     
  3. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Ed,,,,you are not supposed to bring that up,,,,just follow lockstep and DO NOT question your betters (as they see themselves)
     
  4. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    We're saved, all of the moonbat lib socialists will be moving to Mexico! Now if we can just deny them "absentee" ballots.


    "Mexico decriminalizes small-scale drug possession

    By MARK STEVENSON (AP) – 4 hours ago

    MEXICO CITY — Mexico decriminalized small amounts of marijuana, cocaine and heroin on Friday — a move that prosecutors say makes sense even in the midst of the government's grueling battle against drug traffickers.

    Prosecutors said the new law sets clear limits that keep Mexico's corruption-prone police from extorting casual users and offers addicts free treatment to keep growing domestic drug use in check.

    "This is not legalization, this is regulating the issue and giving citizens greater legal certainty," said Bernardo Espino del Castillo of the attorney general's office.

    The new law sets out maximum "personal use" amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities no longer face criminal prosecution.

    Espino del Castillo says, in practice, small users almost never did face charges anyway. Under the previous law, the possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, but there was leeway for addicts caught with smaller amounts.

    "We couldn't charge somebody who was in possession of a dose of a drug, there was no way ... because the person would claim they were an addict," he said.

    Despite the provisions, police sometimes hauled in suspects and demanded bribes, threatening long jail sentences if people did not pay.

    "The bad thing was that it was left up to the discretion of the detective, and it could open the door to corruption or extortion," Espino del Castillo said.

    Anyone caught with drug amounts under the new personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory.

    The maximum amount of marijuana for "personal use" under the new law is 5 grams — the equivalent of about four joints. The limit is a half gram for cocaine, the equivalent of about 4 "lines." For other drugs, the limits are 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams for LSD.

    Mexico has emphasized the need to differentiate drug addicts and casual users from the violent traffickers whose turf battles have contributed to the deaths of more than 11,000 people since President Felipe Calderon took office in late 2006.

    But one expert saw potential for conflict under the new law.

    Javier Oliva, a political scientist at Mexico's National Autonomous University, said the new law posed "a serious contradiction" for the Calderon administration.

    "If they decriminalize drugs it could lead the army, which has been given the task of combating this, to say 'What are we doing'?" he said.

    Officials said the legal changes could help the government focus more on big-time traffickers.

    Espino del Castillo said since Calderon took office, there have been over 15,000 police searches related to small-scale drug dealing or possession, with 95,000 people detained — but only 12 to 15 percent of whom were ever charged with anything."
     
  5. birdogs

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    Is it true that Obama had to ask a Secret Service agent where the Oval Office is since he had not been in it in such a long time - and then only once?
     
  6. Old Confederate

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    You misguided radicals and rabble rousers need to understand that the president and his friends know what is best for you. The sooner you realize this the sooner the world will be a better place. The King in 1776 called Grandpa and his friends radicals and rabble rousers so it is bred in me and I can't seem to change. Could it be from lack of trying? Larry
     
  7. chuckles

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    Jeeeez.... the majority of America voted for this administration so whats the problem...???

    Its the will of the majority of the people and thats what America is all about isn't it....?????

    Jeeeeezuussssss.......
     
  8. ivanhoe

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    What I find interesting is they want to "Let's get out there and beat the bushes amongst the churchgoers, and convince them it's immoral not to support their takeover of the health care industry."

    Why would anyone want them involved in our health care. The Auto dealers are now starting to complain that they aren't getting their cash for clunkers money. One local Car dealer says 5 weeks into cash for clunkers and he has over 4 million in sales and no cash from the government. So no deliveries are being made because for every car he sells the government owes him money and the vehicles don;t leave his lot without full payment.

    The witch thinks that anyone would want the government taking of their health when they can't even handle a simple car deal.

    Bob Lawless
     
  9. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    A moonbat lib socialist preaching to us about morality. What'll they ploy us with next?
     
  10. halfmile

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    The wolf has gotten into the pen. Where is the shepherd now that he is needed?

    Alas, he is lost in his diversions, Riding his Harley , ATV, and Jetski, watching WWF , NFL, and NASCAR.

    Wake up, people.

    HM
     
  11. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    For the liberals. How do you like him now??

    "Poll Shows Americans Losing Faith in Obama"


    "A new poll says that Americans, concerned over the future of health care reform and anxious about the growing federal budget deficit, are losing faith in President Obama.

    The Washington Post-ABC News survey found that less that half of Americans -- 49 percent -- say they believe the president will make the right decisions for the country. That's down from 60 percent at the 100-day mark of the Obama presidency."


    Dick Morris is right. In 2 to 4 years, socialist hussein's name will be mud.
     
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