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I have used a gun to protect myself have you?

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  1. 338reddog

    338reddog Member

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    I have had to pull a gun twice in my life to protect myself. I thankfully didnt have to pull the trigger. One time after helping a friend close up a gun store we were at the door of my truck when a guy started walking towards us screaming that he was going to kill us, he said he was going to stab us and I dont remember all else he said. My friend ran to the safty of his truck as this creep approached. As he reached my truck I put a loaded 357 in his face. He decided to reverse his course all the while saying he was going to kill me. I dont know if he was really planning on killing me or not, but he approached me saying that was his intention. I had no off duty required to carry cop or a black and white prince to save the day. I had a stainless steel Ruger carried with out a ccw. The other time I was in my store when two men entered, they started asking my wife off the wall questions and wanted to see some very expennsive items. My wife came back to the shop where I was located and stated I think we are going to get robbed. I dropped the slide on my glock at wich time the two ran from the store. Again no cops to save the day. I dont belive anyone is to protect me but me. And to believe a cop is there when you need them I call bull $hit. Give me a gun with a high cap mag any day. And if you think I am anti cop, well my sister was and brother inlaw are/was police officers. Their moto to me has always been better be tried by twelve than carried by six. I belive in the second amendment and am possibly alive because of it. If you are one that is willing to give up a little of your freedom then I say FU you dont deserve any freedoms.
     
  2. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

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    First rule of a gun fight, never let your attacker get within arms length of you ...

    "I dropped the slide on my glock"


    When you picked the slide back up, they were gone, you got lucky ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  3. 635 G

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    We were on our boat @ Nettle's Island Marina-back in 2000-- I heard a bang on the transom about 3 AM--I stood on my sun deck and waited to see what was going on--a young man was on our swim platform- I put the laser on his chest & said"if you come on the deck--you're dead" he got on the dock- when the Martin County sheriff showed up, I backed up the sheriff

    The young man was waiting for his parents tenants to vacate the house they were renting-he and his buddy were drinking all day & night-he fell off the marina wall into the fairway--we were the only boat with a swim platform, the noise was his 3 liter bottle of wine banging on the back of the transom--he was told by the sheriff--you're lucky to be alive.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  4. burtona

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    No disrespect to police, they do the best they can,
    but:
    "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

    You can't count on anyone else to protect you.
     
  5. shadow

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    A doped up guy and his wife came beating on my back door at 2 am. He was wanting to fight. I told him to wait until I could get my shoes on. I returned with my M-12 and racked the action--stuck it in his face and asked him if he still wanted to fight. The wife started yelling and I told her that it shot more than once.............They left in a hurry.
     
  6. slayer

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    So 635, you almost killed an innocent young partier. How is this a good thing? Bill
     
  7. Auctioneer

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    Twice, One time with a handgun and another with a rifle. I didn't fire a shot but glad I had them.
     
  8. slayer

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    Back in the early '80's my wife came home late and forgot to lock the doors to the house. In the middle of the night, I awoke to the dog growling. I stepped out into our upstairs hallway and observed a stranger standing there looking at me. I said "what are you doing here?" or words to that effect. He was obviously quite drunk and said that he was lost. I escorted him downstairs and out the door and then called the cops. They picked him up on the road and then stopped by and thanked me for keeping a cool head and not harming him. I guess when I saw the guy he just didn't look like the type to be afraid of. As it turned out he was a funeral director from out of town that was at a local party and blacked out from drinking and got lost. I'm glad I didn't shoot him. Bill
     
  9. APrice

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    Having been in the situation myself, I can tell you that it doesn't usually come down like keyboard Rambo's like to believe. When the adrenalin is flowing, reacting appropriately is quite a challenge.
     
  10. HSLDS

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    Slayer,

    Gota call you on this one.

    635G acted totally within good, common sense.

    First, the young man used BAD JUDGMENT when he got drunk in the first place - that was his mistake and he must live with the consequences of that choice.

    635G responded to an apparent threat - at 3:00 AM any sound should be considered a threat until proved otherwise.

    He armed himself and investigated - fully prepared to protect his wife and himself.

    Upon seeing an inebriated youth he warned him as to the foolishness of his actions and held the youth until the police arrived.

    NO SHOT WAS FIRED.

    Slayer - you use the term "almost" - most of us know "almost" counts only in horseshoes and hand grenades, to use your logic any time a woman walks down a street she is "almost" a prostitute.

    You say an "innocent young partier."

    Sorry, but he was not innocent. He made a choice, and based on his actions he put himself at risk.

    Thanks to the reserve Slayer showed the youth survived, but a drunk, clambering over the side of a boat at 3:00 AM, with a bottle in his hand certainly qualifies as an apparent threat.
     
  11. slayer

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    I guess I don't like the saying that I have heard [read] here more than once "shoot first, ask questions later". Now I know I will catch a lot of flack for that stance, but it's just the way I am. I don't believe that someone deserves to die because of some bad judgement. It's from being raised in the rural midwest, probably. I hate big cities and all the situations that come with them. Bill
     
  12. HSLDS

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    Slayer,

    I live outside Philadelphia - I feel your pain.

    You are from a part of the country where a knock at the door in the middle of the night meant either someone needed help, or worse, someone was bearing bad news. Little risk involved.

    I have had the privilege of travelling to hunt in the mid-west (MO) on several occasions. Each time I am left speechless by the hospitality and helpfulness of the people.

    I was flying home once with a heavy Pelican case filled with hunting rifles. The TSA agent climbed over the wall and took the case saying 'here, let me get that for you.' I kept looking for the Candid Camera staff to pop out.

    At the same time PA now has a true 'Castle Law' and you are afforded much laterality in defending your self, your loved ones, and your stuff.

    This kid was on the verge of that law, and even if 635G had fired I suspect it would have been put down to the foolishness of a drunk not the fault of the gun owner.
     
  13. Jim Porter

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    Yes- Fortunately no one was harmed---but it was sure headed that way! It is amazing how attitudes and bravery change instantly when a 1911 pointed in the direction of a would be attacker.
     
  14. slayer

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    Irregardless of who the law would find at fault, the young man would still be dead. It's up to us to use our heads in these situations. But, point taken, sir. You live in an entirely different world than I. I have a son in law that feels the need to carry two large handguns with him on his Harley. He carries a .50 cal auto on his hip all of the time. This is an otherwise intelligent person. With a good job with a lot of responsiblity. I just don't get the thinking behind this kind of behaviour. He admittedly has never been in a situation in his entire life where he feels that a weapon like this would have been useful. I have asked him. It's just popular to carry weapons now, I guess. Lord help us all. Bill
     
  15. Old Texas Marine

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    Slayer,

    What brand handgun is that .50 Caliber your SIL carries?

    HBT
     
  16. NJCOP

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    Yes and others. GO FIGURE.
     
  17. slayer

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    I'm not positive but I think he said Glock. Small gun for the caliber. Bill
     
  18. stokinpls

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    "I have a son in law that feels the need to carry two large handguns with him on his Harley."

    He likely has been watchin' too much Investigation Discovery on his dish. ;-)


    Bob Falfa
     
  19. CalvinMD

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    Not on humans...feral dogs and snakes on hunting property
     
  20. Traders

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    slayer,

    It's what's wrong with the "Castle Laws". They give the threatened the right to kill without trying to back down first. Now I know that many on this site, will say something to the effect "If he is on my property or i think I am being threatened, I shouldn't have to "back down". i should have the right to kill him." Or as is sometimes more gently stated, "to use what ever level of force i find necessary to reduce the threat." It seems to me that lethal force or its threat should be a last resort. We don't accept shoot first or threaten to shoot conduct from our police so i don't see why we should accept it from ordinary citizens. Using bad judgement should not justify someone else unnecessarily killing you.
     
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