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I don't buy it ! At least not all of it !

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by amboy49, Apr 11, 2011.

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  1. amboy49

    amboy49 Well-Known Member

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    There have been some threads from time to time about how there are a bunch of crotchety old men at every club that make it their goal in life to run off every new shooter not shooting a new Crown Grade Trap Special K80, wearing a Bob Allen shooting vest, cowboy boots, and a belt buckle as big as a dinner plate.

    However, I must admit I get a little heartburn when someone walks up to the 6 guys I normally shoot skeet with and asks if he can join in and already overfull squad.

    If we say no we're all a bunch of a** holes. If we say yes we are subjected to the guy who:,

    Just got the new orange hunting vest at Dick's Sporting Goods and can't remember which pocket he put the shells in.

    Realizes he brought the 20 ga. shells for his 12 ga. gun.

    Just bought a new over and under ( at Cabela's )but isn't sure how to get it open or how the barrel selector/safety works and keeps loading the shell in the wrong barrel to shoot singles.

    Can't remember to take the manual safety off each time he closes his J.C. Higgins double barrel and ends up calling for 10 extra targets because the gun doesn't fire when he pulls the trigger

    Opens the gun after shooting not realizing the ejector will pitch the shells about 10 feet - or however far is necessary to have the empty(s) bounce off of my friend's heretofore blemish free custom Wenig stock.

    Want to learn how to "pull" for the next shooter only to realize he is deaf as a stump or has the reflexes of a three toed sloth when it comes to pushing the button when the command to "pull" is voiced.

    When calling for his target emits a sound only slightly louder than a baby's fart in a whirlwind and then wonders why he got a "slow pull."

    Has not shot enough targets to grasp you are supposed to shoot the low house and the high house before either one of them crosses the stake at station eight instead of turning 180 degrees to shoot it going away. ( The only thing worse is if he turns the wrong way !)

    Shoots an over and under but can only figure out how to load one shell at a time on the singles from 1,2,6 & 7.

    Doesn't have a shell pouch, vest, or bag so he sticks all the shells he can in the blue jeans that are hanging below the crack of his a** but runs out by station 5 and then has to walk back to the gun rack to get the rest of the shells out of the box. Worse still, he leaves the shells in the open box and then bends down each time he needs another shell ( or two or three ).

    Loads the extended magazine of his Blackwater synthetic pistol grip 870 Remington stock with the sling and nite sights with all it will hold. Then just keeps shucking shells until he runs out of ammo. Seems to really take great pride if he turns the receiver just right when he pulls the slide back and the empty shell lands in the trash box at his feet.

    Loads two shells and then turns his body AND the gun so you're looking directly down the barrels so he can ask you which house he should shoot first, the high or the low ?

    Misses High One six rounds in a row but asks each time "Do I shoot that one over again ?"

    Before each station has to be reminded who he follows - usually not paying attention since he's adjusting his iPod or attempting to pull his pants back up to the bottom of the crack in his a**.

    Constantly repeats "Why do you think I missed that target ?" after having been told it's preferable to lead the target in front rather than behind.

    I realize some of the above is not a concern when you're shooting trap. But, the basic principles still apply. I think the new shooters that show up that have a modicum of humility, ask informed questions ( do a little reading, the internet is not a FAD ) and show a real desire to learn are wholeheartedly welcomed. The boorish people of the world find the same attitude from almost all people - they think the resident shooters are a snobbish tight lipped bunch of guys that don't like new shooters.

    Sure feels good to get that off my chest ! ! Did I miss anything ?
     
  2. missed some

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    we don't have that trouble with trapshooters!!
     
  3. shelly

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    Sounds like a normal skeeter to me.
     
  4. Ajax

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    You hit it just about right. They show up in Camo every year and can't figure out why we won't let them put all the shells in the gun. Well heck, they are gunna shoot em all anyway! Darn, trap shooter are so formal.

    Ajax
     
  5. claykiller

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    You sound like a crotchety old man.
     
  6. claykiller

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    You sound like a crotchety old man.
     
  7. claykiller

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    You sound like a crotchety old man.
     
  8. claykiller

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    You sound like a crotchety old man.
     
  9. claykiller

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    You sound like a crotchety old man.
     
  10. shelly

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    killer, you sound like a flincher.
     
  11. claykiller

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    You sound like a crotchety old man.
     
  12. Duck Head

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    Amboy,you're right on the money.I seen a lot in the last 42 yrs shooting around dum-kopft's. I used my head and never have I done any of those bonehead things you described in any game. I try to help the challenged experts but sometimes they can't absorb the info. They are just impossible. I suggest they go to a club I don't like and ask X-X to teach them how to play the game and buy him a beer for the effort.They usually go because that club allows them to drink and shoot not like ours! Good riddence!Jag-offs!
     
  13. timb99

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    How about helping the poor sucker out and teaching him a few things?

    Look at it as an opportunity to bring a new shooter into the community.
     
  14. Smithy47

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    Amboy49, good list, most items look very familiar.

    Items you missed:

    1. Out of a box of 25 reloads, only 1/2 actually go off. sticking a wad in the barrel, holding up the squad while he figures out how to get it out.
    2. Gets on station to shoot, only to turn around and ask about his gun, reloads, which house to shoot first after just telling him.
    3. Shoots his auto but cannot figure out how to load two shells for doubles.
    4. can't figure out why he cannot hit any birds with his full choke shotgun.

    We welcome new shooters and always provide help. You just get a few that are beyond help and cannot figure out the game no matter what.

    We usually have a good time anyway. Most do not stay new for long.

    Best regards, Bob
     
  15. W.P.T.

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    You have to know the person who started this can't be a trapshooter, what would a man have against a belt buckle thats bigger than a dinner plate and cowboy boots ..? I tried to get on Skeetshooters.com once there wasn't anybody home ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  16. Leo

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    How is the guy supposed to know the sport and manners unless we teach him? Remember, that new guy might be young and healthy enough to actually help unload the truck when the target order gets there. He might bring several buddies who actually pay full member dues and keep the club maintained. I am not quite an old timer, but have seen the biggest long time member complainers do everything that is in the list above. I have waited for the old timers who know more than everyone else, who do not pick up after themselves, who leave the line standing in the hot sun because they brought out the wrong box of shells. They put down every other gun on the line except whatever they are shooting this year. They talk about how the sport was so great in the past and yet complain when the new members bring guests, (who by the way, pay double price per round so the old guys can get their senior citizens discount). When scoring, some of these old farts start joking with their buddies and forget to record hits and misses. A new guy can learn, there is always hope to turn him into a real top notch shooter/club member/gentleman. There is little hope for the old complainers that have chosen to be a pain in the butt. This does not HAVE to happen. I have also met some very fine old shooters who are an asset to the club and help insure the future. They never complain about the new guys, but help the new guys learn the right way.

    If you need me, I'm headed over to the shed to cart some more targets to trap house three......
     
  17. tallpaul

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    As a club and a squad, we'll put up with the behavior described in the original post ONCE. After the round, the most diplomatic of the bunch will usually pull the new shooter aside and go over a few things. We all started shooting at some point, and invariably committed many of the faux pas mentioned. It's only a mistake if it happens a second time. Safety, however, is another issue altogether, where we rarely get a second chance to correct a grave error, and we all have to be vigilant around the newbies. There will always be a percentage of new shooters who just don't have the mental capacity or desire to deal with all the rules we, as club members, follow out of safety and respect for our fellow shooter. The new shooter who loads his auto to the max and doesn't understand why it's a problem usually doesn't show up after a round or two. I have been around many new shooters who didn't know protocol, but sincerely had a desire to learn the shotgun games. They usually got on board pretty quickly. With tact and a smile, it's pretty simple to separate the wheat from the chafe.
     
  18. jsteenson

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    You must have started out an expert,most of us didnĀ“t so please bear with us.
    JACK
     
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    You know what they call a big dinner plate sized belt buckle?

    A tombstone for a dead d!ck.

    Ken
     
  20. mcneeley5

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    Those redneck shooters will most times outshoot the good ole boys easy! Lacking the social skills dictated by the "group" does not exclude these shooters from desire to shoot or money that looks very simular to what the "group" uses! A small ammount of direction will knock the rough edges off leaving a shooter! A smartass can wreck a potential new addition to the game. By the way I did run a range for 17 years and always enjoyed an opprotunity to work with the new shooters. To be really into the youth shooters is the PC approach but does not pay near as good as a working man! Mike
     
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