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I can't stand it, you guys

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Guy, Oct 23, 2010.

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  1. Guy

    Guy Member

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    I can

    I read yet another thread that has all these responses about how you guys "swing" your barrels......it's been going on for awhile, and up until now I've just figured it was the young guys talking like that.....but now....you boys are killing me!

    Is it something that's being taught? Is this the new way to break targets, or has it always been this way, and I'm just slow to the table, as usual?

    I think it is absolutely the wrong way to build what I call a "move" to the target....."swing" to the target??? Give me a break!! I see guys that "swing" their barrels....they can't shoot.

    Let's start with this, and see where it goes.
     
  2. neofight

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    I'm still a bit new to all this, so i'm not sure if i am swinging to the target or not. I've been told that one should swing to and through, but i feel like i'm simply bringing my barrel up to the target and blasting away.

    I try to not think too much about what i am supposed to do and just do what feels comfortable. I feel i am doing okay at this point, shooting 94-95.
     
  3. grntitan

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    Somebody is really fish'n here. What is it your using, stink bait??
     
  4. Barry C. Roach

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    Watch Leo or Ray or Kay. No follow through. Ricky does though.
     
  5. Guy

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    No fishin' to it....."swing"? We've got long time posters here using the word....so what's the deal? Sell me. Make sense, and I'll buy it.....but I don't think you can.

    I think that trying to build a game around your "swing" is bunk....and the concept does not help players improve their game.
     
  6. kansasshooter

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    I wouldn't think you would need a big follow through in trap. I see some guys with a huge follow through, especially on angles. And they aren't usually that good. lol. I think its probably more important to stay in your gun then really have a huge follow through, or "swing."
     
  7. phirel

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    Your gun and upper body should move as a single unit. This results with the end of the barrel moving both up and rotating on angle birds. Such a movement may accurately be described as a swing.

    Pat Ireland
     
  8. BIGDON

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    Pat I always knew you were a "swinger".

    Don
     
  9. JTEA

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    There was an old theory about "spraying" the shot like swinging a hose squirting water. Not good for the pattern; alternative to locking onto the target. Certainly a poor technique for the actual hunting of real birds.

    JT
     
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    I DON'T SWING--I "SMEAR" THRU THE BIRD....................SMOKIT
     
  11. Stl Flyn

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    Pat has it right. The upper body should move as one unit. The reason for this is there is no movement in the arms causing "snap shooting". This is where the word "swing" comes from. It basically means smooth movement to the bird. The follow through will just happen naturally if you do it this way. If you follow though the bird you at least have a chance at getting good. The experienced shooters may look like they are not following through. I bet if you video taped them and watched in slow motion you would see a follow through, along with the cheek not leaving the gun stock until the bird is broken. It just is not as dramatic or long. You must follow the swing through the bird regardless, to be consistent. Jon
     
  12. Dr.Longshot

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    You should be pivoting your swing from the KNEES, w front KNEE broken, not stiff legged, this swing progresses through the hips and waist and upper body as Pat Ireland is saying.

    You swing to the bird and you are sub conciously passing through the bird and pulling or releasing the trigger and target breaks.

    Some shooters get to the bird and stop the swing and ALAS you are behind it.

    Then there are the spot shooters that pass the bird w/Bbl and stop and SPOT shoot the bird.

    Everyone has a different technique, I used to spot shoot when I was younger and shot a lot faster.

    I believe I am accurate in saying that BRITT ROBINSON was a fast spot shooter
    he had one HELL of a technique and he used it well and I have never seen anyone that duplicated his TECHNIQUE.


    Gary Bryant
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  13. timb99

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    Skeet shooters swing both ways.
     
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    99... we get it
     
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    Watch Pap Charlie here. Looks like he's slinging the shot on the last shot. This what you mean "Pat"?

    Matt
     
  16. BIGDON

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    Swing at the hips as Pat suggested, I don't know anybody who starts swinging from the knees.

    Don
     
  17. Guy

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    "Swing at the hips..." you guys are really puttin' it to me.....you're really going to stick to that? You swing to the bird? Cut it out.

    Now I'll have to say that "move" creates a whole different image.

    I want to hear one of the big guns tell me about his swing.....and his knees.....and his hips. I can't wait.
     
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    WGH, I guess you never heard of Todd Bender??? You might want to read what he says about swinging a shotgun. Pats right and I agree if your moving anything above your belly button, your moving to the target "wrong". You don't move your arms,shoulders,or any part of your upper body. This will move your eye off the barrel. This is a fact that you nor I can change. Best of Luck to all that try. Break-em all. Jeff
     
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    WGH

    I'm sure some of us are wondering just how you move to the target? I move from the hips with elbows up and weight slightly over the front leg. I like to think I can shoot.

    Rich in Indiana
     
  20. Guy

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    Rich: So you don't "swing" to the target?

    P&M: Your story is really a load....what will move my eye off the barrel?

    You're missing my point...."swing" is a poor choice of description.....and I have seen guys that actually "swing" their barrels....they can't shoot.
     
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