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hussein is in BIG OIL'S pocket!!!!

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by bigdogtx, Mar 23, 2010.

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    hussein is in BIG OIL

    It will be $4 by the 4th,,,,he is just doing this for his "oil buddies" so they can get their big windfalls,,,,he is just hurting the little guy while his cronies get rich on their backs of the poor and middle class,,,,he is on their payroll somehow, not sure how, but why would gas cost this much,,,,biden has something to do with it....


    Gasoline Pump Prices Highest Since October, 2008
    Drivers in some states hit harder as average gasoline price continues march to $3

    By MARK WILLIAMS
    The Associated Press

    Gasoline pump prices lingered at a 17-month high on Monday following a steady climb in recent weeks.

    Nationwide average retail prices remained flat at $2.82 per gallon, the highest level since October 2008. Prices are up 18.6 cents in the past month, according to AAA, Wright Express and Oil Price Information Service.

    That matched the national average in the Energy Information Administration's weekly report, up 3 cents from a week ago and 86 cents above a year ago. California had the highest average pump price — $3.09 a gallon — and the Gulf Coast region was the lowest at $2.69 a gallon.

    Many experts and the EIA think average gasoline prices will hit $3 or more this spring or summer before easing later in the year. More expensive blends to cut pollution in the warmer months and more drivers on the road should keep pump prices up.

    The price rise comes as the economy continues its slow recovery from the Great Recession and deals with stubbornly high unemployment.

    At $3 per gallon, a typical motorist using 50 gallons of gasoline a month will spend $150 on fuel. A year ago, prices were at $2 a gallon.

    Higher gas prices hit drivers in some states harder than others. A study released this month by the Natural Resources Defenses Council found that drivers in Mississippi, Montana, Louisiana, Oklahoma and South Carolina spent the largest part of their incomes on gasoline last year. Mississippi drivers on average spent 6.2 percent of their income, or $1,880, on gas — the highest percentage in the nation.

    Although few forecast a spike in gasoline prices like that of July 2008, when average pump prices hit $4.11 per gallon, the NRDC said an unexpected jump that high would boost the amount Mississippi drivers spend on gasoline to 11 percent of their income, or $3,345.

    At the other end of the spectrum, the report found that drivers in Connecticut spent the least on gas in 2009 — 2.5 percent of their income, or $1,391 — followed by New York, Massachusetts, Maryland and New Hampshire.

    Pump prices could ease a couple of pennies later this week, since the monthlong rally in oil prices stalled at the end of last week and crude prices gained little ground Monday. The April contract, which expires Monday, rose 57 cents to settle at $81.25 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Most of the trading moved to the May contract, which added 63 cents to settle at $81.60.

    In other Nymex trading in April contracts, heating oil rose 0.7 cent to settle at $2.0837 a gallon, and gasoline gained 0.06 cent to settle at $2.2562 a gallon. Natural gas slid 9 cents to settle at $4.079 per 1,000 cubic feet. Earlier, natural gas hit a 52-week low at $4.036

    In London, Brent crude rose 66 cents to settle at $80.54 on the ICE futures exchange.

    http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=10166222
     
  2. Tripod

    Tripod Well-Known Member

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    It always goes up this time of year, besides crude oil is over 82 buck a barrel. I doubt Obama has much control over world markets anyway any more than Bush did. However I do not in any way however defend the socialist basT@*#!!!
     
  3. zarathrusta

    zarathrusta TS Member

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    Sounds kinda familiar to me.
     
  4. dbcook

    dbcook TS Member

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    monkey seen, so monkey does.
     
  5. highflyer

    highflyer TS Member

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    Hussein is our Chavez. The government is seizing more and more control every day. I heard them talking today about a value added tax on everything to add to the other new taxes to cover our new multi-trillion dollar debt. I also heard they would be coming after our retirement plans. Our health care, our student loans, our insurance companies, our car companies, our banks. Where can we go to regain our freedom. Is there any free country left out there. I need to escape from the tyranny that is the new America. Thinking about setting some escape money aside so I can leave quickly when the time comes.
     
  6. SeldomShoots

    SeldomShoots Active Member

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    Hmmm, I guess he'll have company considering how high fuel prices got during Bush and Chenney's administration. Assuming a president has any controll over this, it is probably safe to say that the oil companies are greasing the skids for the president regardless of political affiliation. This is nothing new, you should probably stick to being pi$$ed about the health care give away program that we're gonna be paying for.

    No group of republican or democrat politicians have done anything to curb our dependence on foreign oil. In all likelihood, because both sides are getting their campaign coffer's filled or at least the ones who sit on the House and Senate Appropriations Committees. Those people have way too much control over what happens.

    John E.
     
  7. highflyer

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    Wait until the Democrats inact cap and tax. Then you will see the cost of all your energy go up. More money to our corrupt socialist government.
     
  8. wm rike

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    What have you been smoking?! Your President hates fossil fuel in any way, shape, or form, and he also hates corporate profit. Like Highflyer said, wait until Congress gets their teeth into cap and trade - everything produced in this country will get more expensive and our dependence on foreign oil will go up.
     
  9. SeldomShoots

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    high, I think you mean "enact".

    Also, what do you mean "cost of all energy go up"? It already did under Bush's administration, my electric rates jumped per kilowatt hour during Bush's administration as did LP for grain drying, it came back down a little last year, but I am sure it will go back up because the energy companies use any petty excuse to jack the rates and/or the prices up.

    The oil companies and politicians learned a couple years ago that this country's threshhold of pain on gas is $4.00 per gallon. Make no mistake, it will go there again regardless of cap and trade. The oil companies and incumbent politicians will put it there because they can and they know we will pay it.

    high, you and everyone else will pay higher prices for fuel and energy before you go against your party and vote the incumbents out, yes even your blessed republicans and the evil democrats. Here's why you will pay for it. Lets say the average car gets 18 miles to the gallon. Ask yourself . . . would you walk or ride a bicycle 18 miles for $4.00?. Me neither.

    high, for the love of God, please vote all of the incumbents out that you possibly can regardless of party affiliation. It is the only hope for America. Maybe if we send a whole new crop of representatives and senators to Washington, it will take longer to corrupt all of them.

    John E.

    P.S. Are you still afraid or ashamed to put your name to your post? Also, where are you planning on escaping or going to that is better than America, even at her worst? Should I start a collection for a plane ticket? heheheee
     
  10. SeldomShoots

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    rike, apparently not as good of stuff as you have. LOL!!! Who said he is my president?, except you. He is a schmuck just like every president after Teddy Roosevelt,(except for possibly Truman). I see you are a finger pointer, just remember, when you point your finger at someone, there are three pointing back at you.

    John E.
     
  11. SeldomShoots

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    high and rike, please describe exactly what cap and trade is, and how long has it been around. This is not a new thing.

    In fact this how the EPA describes cap and trade:

    Cap and trade is an environmental policy tool that delivers results with a mandatory cap on emissions while providing sources flexibility in how they comply. Successful cap and trade programs reward innovation, efficiency, and early action and provide strict environmental accountability without inhibiting economic growth.

    Examples of successful cap and trade programs include the nationwide Acid Rain Program and the regional NOx Budget Trading Program in the Northeast. Additionally, EPA issued the Clean Air Interstate Rule (CAIR) on March 10, 2005, to build on the success of these programs and achieve significant additional emission reductions.

    or you can read it from their website at: http://www.epa.gov/capandtrade/


    If you need some more help you might want to refer to these:

    http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/progsregs/nox/sip.html

    http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/progsregs/cair/index.html

    Look at when the two aforementioned cap and trade policies went into effect. Moreover, take look at who was in control of the congress in those years, and the prior years leading up to that:

    http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

    Looks like primarily republicans to me. So cap and trade is not a new Obama policy, but rather a continuation of an old policy, promulgated under the Clean Air Act of 1990 during George H.W. Bush's adminstration. Obama's proposed cap and trade tax is in all likelihood radical and stupid and will create more jobs for the IRS and the EPA, however, George W. Bush and the republican controlled house and senate apparently did not have a problem adding to the Cap and Trade program regulations, fines or penalties. I am not a tree hugger, but taking reasonable steps to protect our environment that impose a small cost are not in my mind unreasonable. Is it me, or does everyone just seem to want to say environmentalist, tree huggers, cap and trade and the EPA are causing this country too much expense or is that the soundbite that corporate CEOs love to spew to cover for their desire for price gouging, ridiculous CEO salaries and poor management? Just wondering.

    An old saying goes: when you don't have money in your pocket - you're a democrat; and when you do - you're a republican. This basically means peoples' viewpoints change with money, as does the way they vote, whether its is in the voting booth or on the floor of the house and senate when their palms are greased. So get off your high horses and just admit that ALL politicians have been screwing this country over for several years, and vote the incumbents out. Little by little we can get rid of the power players and their lackys.

    Please, give me facts and not just soundbites in the future.

    John E.

    P.S. This may help explain the hike in my kilowatt hour charge during Bush's administration, but the reality is that we as Americans are demanding more and more energy, and without other forms of energy, other than coal and oil, or the ability to get more coal, and more oil from places other than Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Venezuela, we will pay more for it.
     
  12. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Funny how the MSM and our resident libs have not been shouting from the rafters how hussein has been making the prices go up on oil,,,,If it was Bush's "fault",,,,then it should ALSO be hussein's "fault",,,,just haven't seen or heard the rhetoric....
     
  13. SeldomShoots

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    bigdog, yeah, that is pretty funny. Since you are the first person to articulate the thought and repeat a story from MSM, does that mean you are becoming a resident lib? (Sorry, I had to hack on you a little, I know you don't talk like a lib). Its true that the democrats have done nothing to help bring down the high price of fuel since taking control of the house and senate in 2007. And fuel prices are inching their way back up, however, I am not aware of Obama ever having been on the board of directors of an oil company or oil exploration/drilling equipment company either. So it may be possible that Bush got bashed for something that he had no controll over, just because of guilt by association. Does anybody have a way of finding out how much oil companies contributed to Bush's and Obama's campaigns? That would be interesting to see, even though it may not prove anything.

    Nevertheless, I'll stick with my viewpoint of get rid of them all.

    We need candidates elected who are willing to look at realistic price competative, alternative forms of energy.

    We need candidates elected who are willing to drill now in the North Dakota region and get the oil to knock OPEC's prices on a barrel of oil down, and to keep those pesky Canadians from "drinking our milkshake".

    We need candidates elected who will impose more/higher tariffs on imported goods, especially from China.

    We need candidates elected who will balance the budget, and stop frivolous spending.

    We need candidtates elected who will deport all illegal aliens and close our borders until unemployment is zero.

    We need candidates elected who will only vote on one item at a time and refuse to vote for a bill full of pork, just to get a perk or provision that is only beneficial to their district.

    We need candidates elected who will uphold the U.S. Constitution.

    We need candidates elected who will keep our military strong, eliminate all the BS spending regarding Homeland Security, provide the veterans care and assistance necessary to adequately honor their sacrifice while they are alive, as well as after they are dead, and negotiate fair prices for the equipment soldiers and the military needs.

    We need to elect candidates that subscribe to the belief that: Just because you do business with the government doesn't give you the right to steal or gouge, and just because it is taxpayers' money doesn't give you the right to squander it.

    Now, where do we find them, because neither party has shown me any hope for getting these objectives accomplished?

    John E.
     
  14. dbcook

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    i agree with you big dog, but also remember many on this site telling us that oil co,s deserved to make money when oil was skyrocketing right after hurricanes rita & katrina thru 2008. i remember well in 08 how the oil consumption was going down & wall street was manipulating the market so that oil prices were still rising.i firmly believe goldman sachs was the premiere manipulator of the oil markets the last several years. dwain
     
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