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  1. rpeerless

    rpeerless Well-Known Member

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    How is our government looking at all gun owners as a whole? I am deeply concerned about this with all the proposed gun control.

    Is this government with it's current agressive behavior charging all legitimate gun owners with being future Adam Lanza's without regard for anything? Charged and punished for future crimes that haven't happened or won't ever happen? Threatened with confiscation of material possessions for what?

    It was reported that the guns used in this horrific crime belonged to Lanza's mother.

    Are all gun owners being wrongly portrayed by government as dark villians, devil worshipping, druggies who may or not have had other medical issues that contributed to their behavior?

    It may take months for the experts to weigh in on what might have caused Lanza to do what he did but why is this government in a rush to clamp down on millions of clear minded innocent gun owners?

    Innocent until proven guilty in this Country or has that now changed too?


    Is only half our government behind this proposed gun grab? If so what is the other half doing?
     
  2. Rick Barker

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    I think we will be seeing so many different bills come at us we won't know which end is up, State bills, local city and of course the Fed, it will be ugly.

    Don't be surprised to see Republicans to give up.
     
  3. rpeerless

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    Don't ever want to see the Republicans give up on this without a fight.

    I was reading 'Comments' under an article about gun control today. One person more or less said it was time for guns and the outdated NRA to go, in the same way that no one rides horses anymore. What a narrow minded thing to say... What's next abolish all horse everything without regard to anyone?

    If that's the case when and where will it stop?

    What's down the pike if they succeed with the gun grab...no rodeos, no race tracks, no stables, no tack, no polo, no anything horses??????
     
  4. CharlieAMA

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    It is going to be a clusterfxxx. Maybe if they introduce a bill to ban clusterfxxxx, it would clear up alot of BS. LOL
     
  5. Shooting Sailor

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    This is the same mentality which got the failed Canadian registration scheme implimented. After a horrendous act by a mentally unbalanced individual, rather than do anything about controlling unbalanced people, and perhaps preventing further occurences, governments and organisations choose, instead, to focus on the tool used. By demonizing the tool, long and loud, it draws attention away from their own failed policies and practices. By closing institutions where these unbalanced individuals are contained and treated, and putting them back into the community, without any viable support mechanisms in place to receive them, and invoking privacy laws and the "rights of individuals", they should be held liable for the actions of those released. They use these same privacy and rights arguments to prevent involuntary commitment for treatment, as well, though involuntary commitment and treatment may well be in the best interest of the individual, and the community as a whole.

    By demonising tools, and using facile arguments like "if it saves one life", they can justify their existance in the halls of power, and draw attention away from their failed policies which allowed the atrocity to occur.

    The POSSIBILITY that a tool MAY be used to commit a crime is not a valid reason to outlaw that tool. Video cameras have been used by child molesters to record their crimes, but there is not a great hue and cry to register them!

    If people want to set up a registry, let them set up a registry of those individuals who have been convicted of felonies, and are therefore banned from possessing firearms, or a registry of those who have been deemed, by competant authority, a danger to themselves or others, or those with ingrown toenails, or whose name contains more vowels than consonants. If they want to pass effective laws in respect of criminal misuse of firearms, let them look at the number of laws on the books today, which do little or nothing to prevent such misuse.

    This is not a simple problem, which can be fixed by writing new laws. It is a problem long in the making, with a vast multitude of contributory factors. Family breakdown and the loss of competant role models, not being taught respect for others from a very young age, unrealistic portrayals of violence in movies, the glorification of criminals and violence in music and movies, degradation of women in those same songs and movies, excessively violent video games being available to children; these, with many other contributors, all contribute in some way or another to the degrading of respect for others, and thus, the lack of realisation that the rights of others are equal to their own. It is the "sun shines out of my bum, and the world revoves around ME" syndrome. Until there is a societal change in attitude, where individuals come to accept responsibility for their actoins, all the laws written in the world won't make an effective change.
     
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