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How the media threatens our sport

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Unknown1, Sep 30, 2010.

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  1. Unknown1

    Unknown1 Well-Known Member

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    Calling their ignorance "terrorism" is a counter-productive over-reaction on your part.

    Rather than condemn their lack of information, find a way to help correct it. Meet with the staff member(s) responsible for the report. Arm yourself with unbiased data to support your position and be prepared to inform rather than attack the reporters. You might create an ally from what you perceive as an enemy.

    MK
     
  2. semperfi909

    semperfi909 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the developers for the shooting park should have taken out a few adverts and informed the public. Where did the media get their info? Everybody, even the media, reads emails. Send them a few. And a few to whomever it is that is making the real decisions. Massive amounts of info on the web and easy to cut and paste. What do you thing the PETA people do do?

    make an email and include addy to send to, post it here for everybody to cut and paste, and a few thousand emails could find their way to the Denver media. Nobody know where emails come from or can take the change they all aren't local.

    just a thot

    Charlie
     
  3. Dave P

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    Better post the news article too. Otherwise we'd be endorsing heresay.
     
  4. spitter

    spitter Well-Known Member TS Supporters

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    ... and so what did you respond in the Denver Post as a "letter to the editor"?!

    Jay
     
  5. rd

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    The range is being promoted by our county commissioners, and I believe all the local law enforcement agencies are also supporting it, as it will have a large police training facility associated with it. It is not a private development. There is hope it will go ahead as planned. A public hearing is set next Monday at 10, but I don't know where- probably in the Adams County Commissioners hearing room in Brighton, Co.
     
  6. Big Az Al

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    The MEDIA SELLS controversy!

    Take something that everybody really should know,

    present half of information,

    IN a KNOW it all,

    “WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE GREATER GOOD FOR ALL ATTITUDE”!

    And watch the SHEEPLE tune in, in droves!

    John Stussel(?), from one of the wurst of the media products, got fed up with the bias to the half information he was having to put out and quit!

    When he covers the media’s, bent coverage of a subject the couple of clips I have seen were quite good. When he covers news, he almost fit’s in with the rest of the clowns! My take anyway.

    So take up what at least one of the politico’s on the trail is doing here,

    Show where the half info falls short and then present all the facts, IN A Short concise manor!


    AL
     
  7. mrskeet410

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    "Media is driven for only one purpose........revenue"

    Not hardly. They are driven by ideology. Look at their bottoms lines. Other than the Murdoch owned media, they are all going broke. If they were interested in revenue they would change.
     
  8. KRE

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    In the mid 80's an 90's we were ask to keep a record of our TV time, kids included. After the rating were submitted to the networks, we recieved a question sheet. Filled it out an sent it back as well, programs an programing changed.

    Never turn down Jury duty, or a chance to rate TV Programing, your missing your best chance at really being heard, right there.

    Kenneth
     
  9. Big Az Al

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    I can't really argue the revenue side, it is Simply true.

    but as said above one their tricks they use to generate revenue and push their agenda is to leave out facts that would leave a finished story on the table and no where else to go with it,

    thus making the making of dull and boring into Sensational and Controversial, so the sheeple have something to tune into next week, can generate viewers wich makes ad time worth more, fattening their wallets, and furthering there agenda's.

    Watch 20/20 or 60 minutes, most of the "NEWS" when the blanks they leave are filled in. ARE nothing! but the blanks make it________________! Sensational or Controversial, use one or the other, and people/sheeple tune it get more of that ____!


    AL
     
  10. rd

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    The range was approved by the County Commissioners over the DIA objections- maybe they'll sue.
     
  11. Brian in Oregon

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    Actually, a .50 BMG bullet can strike an aircraft at two miles 500 feet off the ground. So can a 30-06.

    The real question is - can this be deliberately done?

    No, it cannot.

    First, at the elevations required, the sights on most firearms are incapable of aligning on the target. They simply run out of adjustment.

    Second, the delay of the bullet arriving on target is measured in many seconds. During this time the aircraft is moving (in landing cycle) at about 80 to 155 mph, depending on what it is. at two miles the 50 BMG has a flight time of about 12 seconds. During that time, a 747 in landing cycle has traveled well over a quarter of a mile. At 155 mph 2728 feet to be exact. Even if anti-aircraft sights were installed, it would be virtually impossible with a 50 bmg rifle, even with tracers and a 10 round magazine. It would be difficult to do even with an M2 machinegun firing 400 to 850 rounds per minute, since the target is well past the maximum effective range, plus the issue of sights again.

    This assumes the range is even going to allow the .50 BMG. Most ranges will not. So can this be deliberately done with a 30-06? No. All but impossible.

    And that's the point. Anyone deliberately trying to do this isn't going to attempt it from a gun range two miles away. They're going to get a lot closer. And if it's terrorists, especially terrorists with connections and funding, they're going to use a shoulder launched missile anyway. There are plenty of Stingers given to the Afghan rebels, and plenty of ex-Soviet and Warsaw pact missiles floating around the world.

    So the real question is... could it be done accidentally? In theory, yes. But statistically, the odds are extremely small. Just this side of ridiculously infinitesimal. What it boils down to is the sensationalistic image of aircraft crashing in flames because of a gun club, because you get more mileage out of unthinking emotions than with logic.
     
  12. Dahaub

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    Rick why didn't you send letters to the editor? It's about as busy as starting a new thread here on trapshooter. You have all this information available from the other shooters and yourself and you have an obligation to educate the uninformed. Doesn't it make more sense to educate that liberal newspaper writer than to bitch about his liberal leanings? Dan
     
  13. recurvyarcher

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    "Nobody know where emails come from"...

    You don't know very much about network adminstration then. You absolutely can trace emails back to their city of origin...sometimes even the very building from which they came.
     
  14. semperfi909

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    I am very aware of how emails can be traced. I am also aware of the legal restraints in doing so. The comment was intended to give the idea that anyone from anywhere could comment to a media and the recipient would have no idea whether the source of the email was local or not. If you get 10,000 emails on a local issue you may likely think that the sources are local voices.

    You can be a paranoid as you like and you still are not even scratching the surface of the traceability of all of you actions. The simple fact that you post here (and THEY know who you are) has probably added you to a couple dozen international watch lists.

    get real

    Charlie
     
  15. recurvyarcher

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    What legal restraints? There are none. You send an email, it comes with a traceable IP address. Anyone can purchase the tracing software, and it's perfectly legal.

    I'm not paranoid, and I'm not saying that they are going to go after you for sending an email, I'm just saying that they can easily cull the constituents' emails and discard all of the rest by using automated software. Most political offices are doing just that today.
     
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