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How many loads per 25 Lb bag of 7 1/2 shot?

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  1. perazzi-tm1

    perazzi-tm1 TS Member

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    I had this figure some place but can not locate it, the topic came up between myself and a friend.
    How many shells can you load with a 25 Lb bag of 7 1/2 shot loading at 1 1/8 oz load?

    It might have been in one of my loading books.
  2. Ruck

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    355.....or 400 one ounce....

    Ken
  3. SoftCraft

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    Basic math: 16 oz per pound so 16 X 25 = 400 oz per bag.

    1 1/8 oz per shell calculates as 400 / 1.125 = 355 loads per bag

    1 oz per shell calculates as 400 / 1.000 = 400 loads per bag

    7/8 oz per shell calculates as 400 / 0.875 = 457 loads per bag

    2000 lb per ton yields 80 bags or 1 ton yields

    1 1/8 oz per load yields 355 x 80 = 28,400 loads

    1 oz per load yields 400 x 80 = 32,000 loads

    7/8 oz per load yields 457 x 80 = 36,560 loads

    Basic math taught at grade school. See thread "Does it have air conditioning"

    Rich
  4. Wayne In ny

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    This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, Kansas, USA. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS, and reprinted by the Salina Journal.



    8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS -1895
    Grammar (Time, one hour)



    1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
    2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
    3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
    4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of "lie,""play," and "run."
    5. Define case; illustrate each case.
    6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
    7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.



    Arithmetic (Time,1 hour 15 minutes)



    1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
    2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
    3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs. for tare?
    4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
    5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
    6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
    7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per metre?
    8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
    9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
    10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt



    U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)



    1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
    2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus .
    3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
    4. Show the territorial growth of the United States
    5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas
    6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
    7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
    8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.



    Orthography (Time, one hour) [Do we even know what this is??]



    1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
    2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
    3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
    4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?)
    5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
    6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
    7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
    8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
    9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain , vein, raze, raise, rays.
    10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.



    Geography (Time, one hour)



    1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
    2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
    3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
    4. Describe the mountains of North America
    5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco ..
    6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
    7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
    8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
    9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.

    10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the incl ination of the earth.

    Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.



    Gives the saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a whole new meaning, doesn't it?
  5. willing

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    Wayne-Check Snopes, it's been around since 1999. Also they couldn't pas it it Brooklin, Harlem, East New York or Bronx.
    Bill
  6. Lkn4rocks

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    I'm sure that you all know that Basic Math does not work with bags of shot, comes close but not exact. Especially when your reloader drops shot by volume and not by weight per load, unless you have a metric bar on a MEC. This is especially true where hard shot and chilled shot do not weigh the same by volume. Now for you to answer your own question, use your powder scale to determine the average weight of your shot drop in grains, then use your Basic Math as there are 7000 grains to a lb. Each bag of shot just like lots of powder weighs a little different by volume. If you can come across a 2001 or earlier edition of Hodgdon reloaders manual, close to the center is some valuable information, the book is well worth keeping, never understood why they discontinued printing this part of their book.
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  8. Harold

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    Willing, I read that Snopes article and it was about the dumbest one I've seen. They gave the status as False, but did not deny it was an actual test. They said it did not prove a decline in standards, because the test was not really that hard, for students drilled in the material!!! Methinks Snopes has an ax to grind. Maybe they are teachers.
  9. phirel

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    Rich- Your basic math failed to incorporate some basic reloading facts. The bushings I have tested that were marked 1 1/8 oz of shot actually drop something closer to 1 1/16 oz of shot. I can only recall weighing the contents of two bags of shot marked 25 pounds. Both were a few ounces short of the marked weight. Every bag of shot I have loaded contains some shot that seems to jump out of the hull onto my reloading table. I do not know how the shot does this but it does. A cocked wad and a primer feeding problem will waist a couple of ounces of shot per bag.

    Rich- to test the actual number of shells produced per bag of shot, I suggest that you load all of the shot in 20 different bags and count the shells produced. Then take the square root of S squared for each bag. S squared is calculated by the difference between X and the mean squared over N-1. This will give you a reasonable range at the 95% level of the number of shells that can be loaded from one bag of shot. Simple basic math.

    perazzi-tm1- My answer to your question would be about 14 boxes.

    Pat Ireland
  10. ANTRIM UDF

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    Okay, so at at $32.00/bag (plus tax), how much does each one oz of shot cost? I went thru college using a slide rule! Pitt `70. First TI calc`r was $69.95; added-subtracted, multiplied-divided, square root. We`ll look back at $32/bag shot and $3.0 a gallon gas as a bargain in less than a year. Using my abacus; it seems most things have risen in price by about 30% in the last nine months. Can you say Jimmy Carter?
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    Can you say NAFTA?

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    Can you say Democrat Congress?
  13. fssberson

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    The real question should be after I spill the shot, how much can I recover to make how many shells. Fred
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    cut the bull. he sak how many. 1 1/8 oz gives 14 boxes. 1 oz gives 16 boxes. 7/8 oz gives 18 boxes. just start loading and you will see. thanks charles
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    I didn't know the dems. set the price of gas. What a stupid comment.
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    This is a great thread. And people wonder why Al Hamilton did not trust the people of this country with the vote.
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    Who's buried in grant's Tomb?!
  19. ANTRIM UDF

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    Grant and his wife! See "Does it have Air Conditioning"?
  20. phirel

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    rev- You did it right and I know how to load the 5/9 of a shell. I have loaded several of them with just a little over half of what should be in them.

    Pat Ireland
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