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How about a quick tutorial on $10K+ shotguns?

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by KEYBEAR, May 30, 2008.

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  1. KEYBEAR

    KEYBEAR Active Member

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    I have owend and shot about all the high dollar guns . I still have a nice trap gun and injoy shooting it . I can tell by your wording your looking for a good argument and it makes little difference what anyone tells you . Yes you have the best shot gun made shoot it and have fun .

    ALF-99
     
  2. WesleyB

    WesleyB Well-Known Member

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    Agreed
     
  3. Tripod

    Tripod Well-Known Member

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    I like my field grade 1100 pretty good too. I bought it for 180 dollars in 1977 used. Its what you like to shoot I guess. I can even do as well with my 870 supermag, but its kind of light for trap.
     
  4. dverna

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    Whatever floats your boat.

    But 5,000 rounds is NOTHING. If your are happy, that is great.

    Any decent sub $1500 gun (1100, 390, BT99) will shoot perfect scores for the right person. No "NEED" to spend even $K - so why did you?

    The same rationale some of us use to spend more than $4k you invested.

    Whatever floats your boat.

    Gun fit is the most important factor. Getting it will cost a lot of money unless you are lucky enough to either find a gun that fits or know a person who has the knowledge - most do not.

    You will likely buy another (more expensive) gun before you shoot 20,000 rounds. Especially when you plateau - which may have already happened and has fostered your question.

    Don
     
  5. KEYBEAR

    KEYBEAR Active Member

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    Well That hit home . You will find the fish around here have been hit hard before .
     
  6. Jeff P

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    No, Alf told it to you more or less straight.

    The squad I typically shoot with shoots, in order: a K-80, a Kolar, a Perazzi MX-8, a Perazzi MX-2000/10RS, and an Alferman (#222). Occasionally, we let a guy shoot with us who shoots an MX-2005, and sometimes two other guys show up who shoot, respectively, a Silver Seitz and/or a Ljutic, and another K-80. Several of the guns are combo sets.

    All in all, most times the squad takes the line there's enough gun out there to buy a couple new cars - nice ones - or a decent house in some parts of the country. So i've seen the high dollar guns in action.

    And I can't tell you what YOU'LL get out of one.

    One nice thing about the P gun is the ability to throw another trigger in and keep on shooting - which I've had to do twice, as I've broken springs at various times. The guy who shoots the alferman runs 100s in singles pretty regularly, but can't break 90 from 24 yards. The K-80 guy ran a 199 two weeks back. As did the Alferman. Last fall the MX-8 ran 200. The guy who shoots the seitz borrowed the MX-2005 and inked 25 from the singles and walked back to the 27 and ran another 24 before he lifted his head.

    I think the point that was being made is this: whatever you feel comfortable with, whatever you shoot well, that's the gun you should shoot. I've had my butt handed to me by guys shooting 1100s, and I've beaten the Seitz's and Alferman's silly. The wood and the engraving is nice - the guy who owns the seitz spent more on his STOCK than you spent on your whole gun - but in the end, it's the shooter more than the gun.

    Go with what makes you feel good. So I guess I'm a prick, too....

    sorry.

    jeff
     
  7. ffwildcat

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    About the only thing you're missing is the a$$ kicking from the missus trying to 'splain the extra bucks. :)
     
  8. JBrooks

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    "One nice thing about the P gun is the ability to throw another trigger in and keep on shooting - which I've had to do twice, as I've broken springs at various times."

    Now that is funny.

    NSXER

    If you can't make AA27AA with the gun you have, it isn't the gun.(BTW, it isn't the shells either unless you are shooting some goofy weenie load)
     
  9. Jeff P

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    PBB - I think he's asking a different question. He wants to know what HE will get out of a gun like we shoot.

    And none of us can answer that for him.

    We can talk about Titanium and drop out triggers and lines-to-the-inch of checkering, custom stocks and fittings, ajustible ribs and variable points of impact....

    But it means something different to YOU than it does to ME, and it will be different still for HIM.

    All I can say is the first time he shoots a fine shotgun truly fitted to him instead of an off-the-rack-one-size-fits-some gun...he'll get it. Now, if his Browning is/has been truly fitted (not some moleskin job on the comb, but truly fitted) maybe he doesn't have that much left to gain. But if he's shooting a factory gun that doesn't fit him just so, no one can explain what it's like to shoot one that does.

    JBrooks...sorry for the humor. At least I got to keep shooting that day. All mechanical things break. All guns break. I won't run one brand down at the expense of another...but I've seen more than a couple guys have to drop out or go borrow a gun when theirs crapped out on them. Usually they didn't finish very well.
     
  10. KEYBEAR

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    We just love nice guns . After close to 40 years shooting at targets I have been beat by just about everything that shoots . If you need to ask you don,t understand .

    ALF-99
     
  11. JBrooks

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    jeff,

    I've seen mayflies last longer than Perazzi trigger springs. LOL
     
  12. Jeff P

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    I guess ALF was right after all.

    My lip hurts now...
     
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    I'll tell you what I get different from my K80 Trap Special tops single 34" and 32" O/U with an added Sporting stock and 28" barrel set for sporting clays and skeet, than any other gun I've owned.(Brownings BT99 Gold Clays, XS Skeet, XT Trap, and Beretta 682 E Gold combo and 391 Auto, Win Model 12, Remington 870 and a couple of 1100s. And that is I never get tired of shooting the K80. It's always a fun gun to shoot even when I don't shoot well. I cannot explain why, it just is. To me it was worth every penny and I wish I'd bought one before all the others because it was about the same price alone as the others were all together.
     
  14. KEYBEAR

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    jeff put alittle salve on it you will be fine . I find it funny a new poster comes on here and starts this stuff . I would bet he told the guys at the club to watch him catch some big ones .

    O-YES I like my Rolex but my Sieko keeps better time .
     
  15. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    Oh Hell, buy what you can afford...house, car, gun, watch, shells.....

    When your looking to run straights it's just so important to look good doing it....
     
  16. Hitapair

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    Nsxer, You must be pretty new on this site too or you'd know AlF and PBB have been around a long time and have had all the big buck guns. In many cases it is no different than "why buy a Porsche when a Ford will get me there?" "Because I enjoy fine cars (guns) and I can afford to" is a typical answer. If you wouldn't enjoy a $10,000 gun or couldn't afford it, that don't buy it.
     
  17. KEYBEAR

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    Mike I have never met a shooter that did,t like you asking to look at his new gun . I would guess about 90% would let you shoot a round with it if you ask . If Nsxer had a little more time in this sport he would know how trap shooters are . Most trap shooters will go a long way to help anyone that needs it (just ask).

    Nsxer If your really interested in high dollar guns just ask some of the guys you shoot with . Just don,t come on this site and think your going to have your way with us .

    ALF-99
     
  18. JBrooks

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    Now,now JW, don't get your speedos in a knot. Perazzis are great guns but they go through trigger springs like Jon Cary goes through Purple Hearts. After all, how did you fix that trigger on the line so fast? Because you and most other P gun shooters carry spare triggers or springs with them, huh. BTW, the last Perazzi specialist gunsmith I met used to be a Jaguar mechanic. Said he wanted to get into a steadier line of work. Now, LOL with me.
     
  19. DTrykow

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    NSXER: I had one of those Brownings. I thought it was all that I would need for the rest of my life. Last summer a good friend of mine said "Hey I'm going away for the summer, can you store my K-80 for me while I'm gone, Oh and you can shoot it if you like". Well I did. An eye opener is an understatement. The balance of his K-80 was instantly noticed. Then the crisp trigger, then the harder hits, then higher scores etc, etc. It blew me away. I gave it back and returned to the Browning. It was like a toy gun bought at Toys-R-Us. Borrow a high end gun and try it, you won't go back. I didn't. Dave T.
     
  20. WesleyB

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    And I STILL agree. People are mighty brave on a computer.
     
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