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"Hot in the Center": Good, Bad or indifferent?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Bushmaster1313, Aug 4, 2010.

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  1. Bushmaster1313

    Bushmaster1313 Well-Known Member

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    Someone posted that my 4E Knick was "Hot in the Center".

    Is this good, bad, a matter of personal taste, or it does not matter?

    4 shells Remington Gun Club 1 oz. 8 shot fired from a stand.



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  2. V10

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    Good.

    After all, isn't the center where you want the target to be? So isn't it better to have more pellets there too?
     
  3. Bushmaster1313

    Bushmaster1313 Well-Known Member

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    It might be better to be even, or "hot" in the periphery.
     
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    Only if you plan on not centering the target.
     
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    Looks like it would break birds pretty damn good to me!

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  6. goatskin

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    I think you're having your leg jerked a little by Mr Chapman (and you're cooperating).

    Not only is that a great pattern, THE GUN FITS!! jeeze-o-peete

    Half the shooters I know would loan you their 6yr-old daughter for a sex-party to have a 70:30 perfectly vertical 85% pattern on a gun they just re-homed ... THAT FIT THEM LIKE THAT ONE FITS YOU.

    Not to mention ... it's a likable gun, too.

    Shoot 10-15k rounds, then decide if it has issues from the 27 ... or parking lot.

    Bob
     
  7. Bushmaster1313

    Bushmaster1313 Well-Known Member

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    What is:

    70/30?

    perfectly vertical?

    85%?
     
  8. goatskin

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    70:30 ... shoots a little high - good for rising trap birds. Make boom when you touch (or just almost near-bout touch) a skeet's butt and you'll be rewarded with a cloud of diesel - almost like you know what you're doing.

    Center of the pattern is 12o'clock ... where you aimed - not at 10 or 2. Means you have a great sight picture and the gun is doing it's job.

    85% was an eyeball estimate of pattern density ... a great-to-ohmigawd full-choke pattern. People pay Allor, Eyster, Wilkinson more than you paid for the gun to get a pattern like that.

    < drool >

    Bob
     
  9. Neil Winston

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    You can't tell anything about patterns by eye. For one thing, trap patterns are generally twice as dense in the center as farther out, but you can't see it. And they vary in their "hotness" shot-to-shot to a surprising degree. The "average values" you may have seen are idealizations of a very messy set of numbers.

    In any case, they are all hot in the center. if they weren't, we would all score much worse.

    Neil
     
  10. Quack Shot

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    Depending on how far you shot it from, it "looks" like a typical pattern to me. Unfortunately, you'd need to shoot more paper, count the holes, and shoot the patterns individually for you to be able to make much of a conclusion. I don't see the need to open that pattern for trap shooting. If the birds are breaking, it's working fine. If not, it's probably not the gun or shells.
     
  11. 1oldtimer

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    I once had one that was hot in the center!
     
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