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Holder Wants More Gun Control

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Jerbear, Nov 21, 2009.

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  1. Jerbear

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    http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m11d21-Holder-tells-Senate-committee-Justice-Department-supports-more-gun-control


    Just a snippit...

    Drawing reasonable conclusions from what Holder publicly said, we now know:

    • Holder wants a national, permanent gun registration system administered by law enforcement. A registration of honest citizens that have cleared the federal background check for gun purchases with those records permanently retained by and shared among law enforcement.

    • Holder wants new federal authority to prohibit any person on the federal watch list (reported to be 400,000 names) from buying guns and supports confiscating guns from those on the list who possess them.

    http://www.rightsidenews.com/200911217408/homeland-security/attorney-general-holder-reveals-aggressive-gun-control-in-response-to-ft-hood-terror-attack.html

    See the links above.

    It was just a matter of time.....


    Jerbear
     
  2. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    no,,,,this cannot be true as our resident liberal idiots said it would never happen under hussein,,,,

    what do you expect when hussein is trying to tear down this country in favor of european style countries....
     
  3. ScottM

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    For the life of me I can't understand how any African American could be in favor of gun control, do they not read history? Have they not noticed just about every gun control law passed in the last 200 years has been to disarm them so scared racists would not have to worry about an equal fight.
    How many times does a state need to start killing it's disarmed citizens before people will figure out giving the government a monopoly of force is the way to mass murder on a scale that common psychotics can't even imagine. Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, all fans of gun control.

    Scott Murphy
     
  4. no5shooter

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    Who in his right mind is surprised by this? Eric Holder was the brain trust behind Waco and Ruby Ridge - Reno's right hand man. The idiots who voted for the present occupant of the Oval Office must have wanted a Holder or his clone; Obama never saw a gun control law he didn't like and anybody who claims otherwise or claims to believe the lying jug-eared clown should not be allowed to vote. They're too damn dumb to cross the street alone!
     
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  6. slic lee

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    They have to take all our guns, they are going to bankrupt us, destroy all business in this country which is happening daily and then when they use up all the money and credit will take our money from the banks passing a law and we will be defenseless and BROKE.
     
  7. stokinpls

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    Suppose Holder will take an interest in this case?

    "Denver police arrest 32 in series of downtown assaults

    The Denver Police Department arrested 32 men and juvenile boys after a months-long undercover investigation into what police said were racially motivated assaults and robberies in downtown Denver, including the LoDo entertainment district.

    A task force composed of Denver police, the FBI and the Denver district attorney's office investigated 26 incidents in which groups of black males verbally h More..arassed, assaulted and at times robbed white or Latino males, according to Denver Police Chief Gerry Whitman.

    All of the suspects are young black males, most of whom told police they were associated with either the Rollin' 60s Crips gang or the Black Gangster Disciples gang.

    They are charged with varying counts of bias-motivated assault and, in some cases, robbery — all felony crimes.

    The investigation determined that there was no single mastermind behind the summer and fall assaults, District Attorney Mitch Morrissey said. It is clear, however, that the two groups communicated, he said.

    Groups of four or five black men would approach a victim late at night or early in the morning and attempt to spark a fight by verbally berating him, Whitman said.

    The suspects made references to the victims' race during the assaults.

    Victims were punched in the head, resulting in head injuries, broken noses and shattered eye sockets, according to Whitman. No one was killed during the months of attacks.

    Some victims' wallets, iPods, cash and other small items were stolen after the assault.

    Whitman said it might be the largest racially motivated criminal group effort ever in Denver.

    "We have seen coordinated efforts before, but not by this large of a group," Whitman said.

    Assaults were often recorded on video cameras mounted throughout parts of the city. The first of the assaults was in July.

    As a pattern emerged, police dispatched undercover teams to areas near clubs and late-night restaurants where assaults were occurring to intervene.

    In September, police asked the public for help in solving 14 downtown muggings but chose not to alert the public to the racial nature of the crimes, or the scope of the investigation underway, out of concern that the undercover effort would be compromised.

    Denver police are still looking for suspects and victims involved in six unreported robberies and assaults captured on video.

    The footage indicates that they may be related to the 26 reported instan ces.

    Victims involved in the assaults may not know that their attacks were part of a larger pattern, Morrissey said.

    Fifty-five warrants were issued for the 35 suspects. Some suspects may have been involved in more than one assault.


    All 32 suspects arrested during the 24-hour sweep know one another, Morrissey said.

    But finding almost all of the people they wanted surprised police.

    "I was surprised we only missed four of them," Whitman said.

    A short time after he spoke, one more was caught.

    Three suspects, Allen Ford, Torrence McCall and one juvenile, are still at large.

    Suspects are being held on $1 million bail for each count"
     
  8. ljutic73

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    Wait until Obama pulls a Hugo Chavez move and tries to become president for life....
     
  10. Brian in Oregon

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/31/AR2009103102141.html<br>
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    1,600 are suggested daily for FBI's list<br>
    Number of names on terrorist watch list at 400,000, agency says<br>
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    By Walter Pincus<br>
    Washington Post Staff Writer<br>
    Sunday, November 1, 2009<br>
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    Newly released FBI data offer evidence of the broad scope and complexity of the nation's terrorist watch list, documenting a daily flood of names nominated for inclusion to the controversial list.<br>
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    During a 12-month period ended in March this year, for example, the U.S. intelligence community suggested on a daily basis that 1,600 people qualified for the list because they presented a "reasonable suspicion," according to data provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee by the FBI in September and made public last week.<br>
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    FBI officials cautioned that each nomination "does not necessarily represent a new individual, but may instead involve an alias or name variant for a previously watchlisted person."<br>
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    The ever-churning list is said to contain more than 400,000 unique names and over 1 million entries. The committee was told that over that same period, officials asked each day that 600 names be removed and 4,800 records be modified. Fewer than 5 percent of the people on the list are U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents. Nine percent of those on the terrorism list, the FBI said, are also on the government's "no fly" list.<br>
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    This information, and more about the FBI's wide-ranging effort against terrorists, came in answers from FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III to Senate Judiciary Committee members' questions. The answers were first made public last week in Steven Aftergood's Secrecy News.<br>
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    Sen. Russell D. Feingold (D-Wis.), who has shown concern over some of the FBI's relatively new investigative techniques assessing possible terrorist, criminal or foreign intelligence activities, drew new information from the agency. Before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the FBI needed initial information that a person or group was engaged in wrongdoing before it could open a preliminary investigation.<br>
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    Under current practice, no such information is needed. That led Feingold to ask how many "assessments" had been initiated and how many had led to investigations since new guidelines were put into effect in December 2008. The FBI said the answer was "sensitive" and would be provided only in classified form.<br>
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    Feingold was given brief descriptions of the types of assessments that can be undertaken: The inquiries can be opened by individual agents "proactively," meaning on his or her own or in response to a lead about a threat. Other assessments are undertaken to identify or gather information about potential targets or terrorists, to gather information to aid intelligence gathering and related to matters of foreign intelligence interest.<br>
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    Feingold pointed to a November 2008 Justice Department inspector general audit showing that in 2006, approximately 219,000 tips from the public led to the FBI's determination that there were 2,800 counterterrorism threats and suspicious incidents that year. "Regardless of the reporting source, FBI policy requires that each threat or suspicious incident should receive some level of review and assessment to determine the potential nexus to terrorism," the audit said.<br>
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    In a different vein, the FBI was asked why it is losing new recruits as special agents and support personnel at a time when terrorist investigations are increasing. The FBI responded that failed polygraph tests rather than other factors, such as the length of time for getting security clearances, are the main reason recruits are ending their efforts to join the bureau. In the past year, polygraphs were the cause of roughly 40 percent of special-agent applicants dropping out, the records showed.
     
  11. W.P.T.

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    I am a very strong believer in gun control without it you would never hit a target ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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