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Herman Cain? real deal or what?

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by RAScott, May 10, 2011.

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  1. RAScott

    RAScott Member

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    I have heard of Herman Cain a few years ago. Now I have to say every time I hear him speak, he makes allot of sense.

    He is direct, and right to the point. Romney has Romney-care to deal with. Trump is good for conversation, but that's about it. Ron Paul has good ideas, but I dont see him getting the nod. Sarah has the stones but I dont think she could pull off a win and we might just get Barry again.

    Maybe Cain and palin?

    The Bafoon that is in the office now, didn't have any experiance and it clearly shows.

    What do you think?

    Bob S
     
  2. Luckyman

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    He's the real deal! Look at what he as done as Black man growing up in a working class family! Every minority in this country should look up to a self made man such as Herman Cain! He has been a game changer wherever he has been..Unlike liberals I look at track record of Education and Accomplishments and he has accomplished more in the private sector than the current Money in Chief ever has...Obama can't even claim he ran a lemonade stand!!!

    Every liberal on this site will try and discount his credentials wich in itself is funny..mrskirt, sernv, jerry944t, recurvy where are you? Keep the laughs rolling for us!!!
     
  3. Luckyman

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    He is as real as real gets! What he purged into the toilet this moring is more qualified and has more character than Obama...

    Herman CainFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Herman Cain

    President and Chief Executive Officer of Godfather's Pizza In office 1986–2002 Preceded by William Theisen Succeeded by Ron Gartlan

    Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City In office 1995–1996 Preceded by Burton A. Dole, Jr Succeeded by A. Drue Jennings

    Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City In office 1992–1994 Preceded by Burton A. Dole, Jr Succeeded by A. Drue Jennings Born December 13, 1945 (1945-12-13) (age 65) Georgia, U.S. Political party Republican Spouse(s) Gloria Cain Children Melanie Cain and Vincent Cain Residence Georgia, U.S. Alma mater Morehouse College (B.A.) Purdue University (M.A.) Occupation Radio host, columnist, businessman, politician Profession Businessman Religion Baptist[1] Website hermancain.com Herman Cain (born December 13, 1945) is an American newspaper columnist, businessman, political activist, and radio talk-show host from Georgia. He is best known as the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza. He is a former deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. Cain's newspaper column is distributed by North Star Writers Group. He currently lives in the Atlanta suburbs.

    In January 2011, Cain announced he had formed an exploratory committee for a potential candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.[2]

    [edit] BackgroundCain was born and raised in Georgia by working class parents.[3] He earned a bachelor's degree in Mathematics at Morehouse College in 1967, and while working for the U.S. Department of the Navy, a master's degree in computer science from Purdue University.

    [edit] BusinessAfter completing his master's degree, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for Coca-Cola as a business analyst. In 1977, he joined Pillsbury where he rose to the position of vice president by the early 1980s. He left his executive post to work for Burger King – a Pillsbury subsidiary at the time – managing 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. Under Cain's leadership, his region went from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable in three years. This prompted Pillsbury to appoint him president and CEO of Godfather's Pizza, another of their then-subsidiaries. Within 14 months, Cain had returned Godfather's to profitability. In 1988, Cain and a group of investors bought Godfather's from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996, when he resigned to become CEO of the National Restaurant Association – a trade group and lobby organization for the restaurant industry – where he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at Godfather's.[4]

    [edit] Radio talk showCain hosted The Herman Cain Show on Atlanta talk radio station News Talk 750 WSB, a CNN radio affiliate until February 2011 and serves as a commentator for Fox News Business and a syndicated columnist distributed by the North Star Writers Group. In 2009, Cain founded "Hermanator's Intelligent Thinkers Movement" (HITM), aimed at organizing 100,000 activists in every congressional district in the United States in support of a strong national defense, the FairTax, tax cuts, energy independence, capping government spending, and dismantling Social Security.[5]

    [edit] Political activities[edit] Role in the defeat of the Clinton health care planCain has been cited as one of the primary opponents of the 1993/1994 health care plan of President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton:

    The Clintons would later blame "Harry and Louise," the fictional couple in the ads aired by the insurance industry, for undermining health reform. But the real saboteurs are named Herman and John. Herman Cain is the president of Godfather's Pizza and president-elect of the National Restaurant Association. An articulate black entrepreneur, Cain transformed the debate when he challenged Clinton at a town meeting in Kansas City, Mo., last April. Cain asked the president what he was supposed to say to the workers he would have to lay off because of the cost of the "employer mandate." Clinton responded that there would be plenty of subsidies for small businessmen, but Cain persisted. "Quite honestly, your calculation is inaccurate," he told the president. "In the competitive marketplace it simply doesn't work that way."[6] Joshua Green of The Atlantic has called Cain's exchange with Clinton his "auspicious debut on the national political stage."[7]

    [edit] 2004 U.S. Senate candidacyIn 2004, Cain ran for the U.S. Senate in Georgia, pursuing the seat that came open with the retirement of Democrat Zell Miller. Cain sought the Republican nomination, facing congressmen Johnny Isakson and Mac Collins in the primary. Cain and Collins both hoped to deny Isakson a majority on primary day in order to force him into a runoff.[citation needed] Collins tried to paint Cain as a moderate,[8] citing Cain's support for affirmative action programs, while Cain argued that he was a conservative, noting that he opposed the legality of abortion even in cases of rape and incest.[9] Cain finished second in the primary with 26.2% of the vote, ahead of Collins, who won 20.6%, but because Isakson won 53.2% of the vote, Isakson was able to avoid a runoff.[10]

    [edit] Support for gold standardHerman Cain announced his support of the gold standard on a radio program in late 2010:

    "Yes I believe in the gold standard. We should have never gotten off the gold standard because when we got off the gold standard, that then allowed Congress to inflate our currency whenever they overspent. Now look at the mess that we have."[11]

    However, in early 2011, Cain stated on his radio show that there was no need for an audit of the Federal Reserve.[12]

    [edit] 2012 presidential candidacyMain article: Herman Cain presidential campaign, 2012 In 2010, "Cain addressed more than 40 Tea Party rallies, hit all the early presidential states, and became a YouTube sensation."[3] In April, he teased the audience at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference about his being a possible 2012 presidential candidate by saying that there may be a "dark horse candidate."[13][14] On September 24, 2010, Cain announced that he was considering a run for president in 2012 on the Republican Party ticket.[15] "In December, he was the surprise choice for 2012 GOP nominee in a reader poll on the conservative Web site RedState.com, narrowly edging out Palin."[3]

    Cain announced the formation of a presidential exploratory committee on January 12, 2011 on the Fox News Channel's Your World with Neil Cavuto.[2][16]

    Cain supports a non-federally subsidized efficient economic stimulus, saying: "We could grow this economy faster if we had bolder, more direct stimulus policies," criticizing President Barack Obama's stimulus plan as simply a "spending bill" instead of meaningful stimulus through permanent tax cuts.[17]

    In December 2010, Jonah Goldberg of the National Review wrote of Cain: "it’s hard to imagine him amounting to more than an exciting also-ran."[18]

    In February 2011, Cain addressed the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC).[19] Ed Morrisey of the conservative website Hot Air said he "stole the show" and that some attendees were moved to tears by the speech.[20] In contrast, AlterNet accused Cain of pandering to white conservatives and referred to him and other black conservatives as "garbage pail kids". Cain called the news website's attacks racist and condemned its "shameful behavior".[21]

    After defending himself against accusations of racism, Cain provoked controversy when he specifically stated that he would be willing to discriminate on grounds of religion when appointing members to his Cabinet, were he elected President, refusing to consider candidates if they were Muslim, on the grounds that such a candidate may support Sharia law. [22]

    After the May 5, 2011 Fox News sponsored Presidential debate, Cain was declared the overwhelming winner by controversial pollster Frank Luntz. According to Frank Luntz who has been censured by the National Council on Public Polls for mischaracterizing focus groups in the past, Herman Cain walked in with only one supporter, and walked out with a majority.[23][24][25]

    [edit] Personal lifeIn 2006, Cain was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer in both his colon and his liver. Cain underwent surgery and chemotherapy following the diagnosis, and has since reported that he is cancer-free.[26]
     
  4. RAScott

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    Pretty impressive resume. HE IS QUALIFIED! the more i hear him the more i like him.
     
  5. Luckyman

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    Exactly...Again where are all of the libs to discredit him??? He is more qualified than Obama will ever be!!!

    But wait...How could we like him being the conservative tea party folks? Aren't we supposed to be racist?
     
  6. RAScott

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    here is a link to a segment. speaks clearly. Bob S
     
  7. birdogs

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    Where was he born?
     
  8. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    "real deal or what?" He is a "what" at the present time.
     
  9. recurvyarcher

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    I'm watching him. I like Allen West better, but he's not running as far as I know. Too bad.
     
  10. Luckyman

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    Or what? He is much more than that! He actually has a track record of success from the private sector actually running businesses and returning non profitable companies and their respective divisions to prosperity. I assure you this is not by accident! His understanding of Mathmatics as well as his MASTERS IN COMPUTER SCIENCE enable him to understand how to streamline manual processes to improve profitability through technology. That includes understanding where to apply software and technology solutions to specific business applications to reduce costs...This is the EXACT experience we need. A man with this type of knowledge could do wonders! Imagine....Medicare fraud could be dramatically reduced with proper checks and balances in place through technology...As a matter of FACT the CEO of IBM went to Obama and said he could save the gov. billions in waste(even before the Healthcare Bill was passed!) through technology for FREE and Obummer turned him down. It is speculated that because it was a " Private Sector" solution Obummer wanted nothing to do with it...Herman Cain would have made the right decision on that one for sure...Just to re-iterate....Pretty impressive resume...A little more than a Lawyer that never practiced law turned community organizer...

    After completing his master's degree, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for Coca-Cola as a business analyst. In 1977, he joined Pillsbury where he rose to the position of vice president by the early 1980s. He left his executive post to work for Burger King – a Pillsbury subsidiary at the time – managing 400 stores in the Philadelphia area.

    Under Cain's leadership, his region went from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable in three years. This prompted Pillsbury to appoint him president and CEO of Godfather's Pizza, another of their then-subsidiaries. Within 14 months, Cain had returned Godfather's to profitability.

    In 1988, Cain and a group of investors bought Godfather's from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996
     
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    Even Juan Williams likes him this could get really interesting

    warren
     
  12. birdogs

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    Where was Juan Williams born?
     
  13. sliverbulletexpress

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    I have this nagging doubt about him in the back of my mind, it comes from thinking about what...some... hired gun CEO's do when they take over a company and make it profitable.
     
  14. Luckyman

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    Yeah...Clean all of the minutia out of DC just like he did when he was in corporate America...That's what the good CEO's do in the private sector...Cut the waste..This guy knows how to do that through common sense alone...All you have to do is listen to him....

    Now just like politicians there are good CEO's and there are bad CEO's...Not only was Herman a good CEO he was a great CEO!!!
     
  15. i_shoot

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    birdogs, he's a Georgia native. He is a good choice.

    i_shoot
     
  16. Hoosier Daddy

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    I am not as sure as you are. Anything is easy if all your doing is talking about it. Obama fooled a lot of people with his rhetoric.
     
  17. Luckyman

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    This guy doesn't have to fool anyone!!

    Everything he talks about and his approach to problem solving is all related to and derived from his experience in the private sector! Unlike Obama who has none and had none when he was elected....Cain does not have to BS because he is not an empty suit...He is the exact opposite..He has qualities that come from experience and success in the private sector turning companies around and as a business owner and that's what we need in our next candidate whether it's Herman Cain or someone else...

    I could see through Obama and his lies from the very start and anyone who couldn't was a fool! Isn't it ironic that the only people the were fooled by this snake were the uneducated voters? I think we all know who they are...Democrats!
     
  18. sliverbulletexpress

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    I hope I'm wrong but I think most of the black voters won't accept a conservative black, they will be calling him an uncle tom, it's happened before.
     
  19. shot410ga

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    Luckyman: What are you doing, sleeping with the guy? Your as bad as a Obummer lover. Cain walks on water, does he? Grovel boy, grovel.....
     
  20. Hal1225

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    The Federal Reserve Bank needs to be returned to "We the People" so bailouts go to people who need them most. Like crippled children, wounded soldiers and killed soldiers families, disaster victims etc. The secret "books" need to be seen by "We the People" too.

    Harry Lyga
     
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