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Help with Marlin Lever Gun

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by k1200ltc509, Nov 4, 2012.

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  1. k1200ltc509

    k1200ltc509 Member

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    I have a "jam" with my Marlin 44 Mag rifle. I was loading it and the case/round is bound on I believe part of the lever. Chamber is empty (the round never went from the magazine to the chamber) and round is stuck! Remington 44 mag 240 grain SP ammo. Tried tapping the round into the magazine, lever will not go in or out and is jammed solid.

    Do I have to take something apart or is something broken? I have several other Marlins, never had this happen with one of them. Any help please? Thanks, Rick Gibbs
     
  2. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    check the screw right behind loading gate..if this is loose it will bind the carrier
     
  3. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

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    What Calvin said. It is simple to take apart also. Had a friend who had same problem and I had to tear it down
     
  4. Brian in Oregon

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    If there is a round in the chamber, be very, very careful if the bolt will not retract. If the gun has a crossbolt safety, use it. Watch where the muzzle is pointing. I know you said the chamber is empty, but err on the side of caution.

    Try tightening the loading gate screw per Calvin first. If that fails to resolve the problem, then follow these steps.

    If the gun is bound up and the lever and bolt will not move, you'll have to remove the lever pivot screw, then remove the lever if possible. If the lever does not fully remove, there are three screws holding the lower part of the receiver in place - one on either side of the rear of the receiver, and one underneath towards the front. It may take a combination of wiggling both the lever and the lower to get both out. This is not the usual disassembly procedure but then the action is probably not opening like it should.

    Once taken apart, the bolt can be removed, but, there is a locking block in the rear that has to be removed. Usually it will fall out, but some may be snug.

    Once this is done you'll need to find out why the cartridge jumped out, assuming the loading gate was not the culprit. The lifter is supposed to block cartridges from sliding out under it when it is lifting a cartridge.

    A bit of advice... Use a proper gunsmithing screwdriver or a quality hollow ground bit. Never use a tapered blade screwdriver. Marlin screws, in my opinion, are a bit soft and they will get buggered up easily unless a proper hollow ground blade is used. And this will lessen the chance of the screwdriver slipping and scratching or gouging your blueing.
     
  5. capvan

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    And be sure your rounds are long enough. Wadcutters will cause the jam you've got every time. I just removed the lever and cleared the problem and all was well.

    cap
     
  6. rooferbob

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    Very nice post Brian that would be very helpful for me.
    Rooferbob
     
  7. Big Az Al

    Big Az Al Well-Known Member

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    When the 44 mag was first being introduced it was looking at having an over all CARTRIDGE length 0f 1.5XX inches

    If you measure the lifter on many Marlin 44 mag rifles you will find this measurement. Even with the newer models.

    At some point with Smith and Wesson being the FIRST MANUFACTURER to chamber the 44 MAG in a factory firearm, it was found that there revolver's cylinder was 1.4XX inches long. So the spec's where changed so that S&W did not have to retool there revolver.

    If you are(have a liberary Like I have had access to thinks to my dad) like my dad who once he got into reloading, bought every manual, book with reloading imfo. It is easy to go through the manuals until you find the earliest 44 mag reloads listed they are longer in the those, then they are in the ones that where printed after the S&W 44 mag revolver hit the market. Also SAAMI shows the 1.4XX length as the right one. At one point When i was searching the enternet I found a SAAMI drawing titled Revission II, I never did revission I.

    The bottom line is that the if the lifter shelf is the longer length factory, Factory shells or any loaded to factory/revolver lengthh, will be short enough that the shell on the lifter will let the RIM of the next shell onto to lifter jamming the action.

    Al Lingham
     
  8. k1200ltc509

    k1200ltc509 Member

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    Gentleman, thanks for all of the help. The loading gate screw was loose, as were most of the screws. Was able to un jam it after the screws were tightened. I bought this far a very reasonable price and was glad no major issues with it.

    I can't wait. Opening day is saturday and I want this one for the close-up shots. A few pics from the cameras. Thanks, Rick Gibbs
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  9. CalvinMD

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    Glad it was simple...one note..the screw that is at the muzzle end of the underside of the mag tube that goes up through to a small hole that keeps the mag tube from twisting out of alignment and retains the end cap should only be very lightly snug with locktite to keep it from loosening,..over tightening causes a tight pressure spot near the muzzle end that can really hose up the accuracy...also if reloading..stay with jacketed bullets of 430dia of 270gr and smaller..240's on the light end ..Marlin 44s bore ID's are a little on the oversize side,...if you plan on using hardcast lead bullets .432-.433" will shoot best...Winchester white box 240's shoot the best of factory stuff ,..because of the slow 1/38" twist rate 270 is the heaviest that shoot well and must be driven fast...300gr bullets rarely shoot well as they cant be pushed fast enough to stabilize...I've shot lots of Marlin 44's and still have 3 of them in different configs plus a 4th that was rebarreled with a 1/20" twist 20" tube that is used just for heavy bullets...good luck taking Mr Buck
     
  10. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    How about a pic of your Marlin,,,..a little gun porn beats reading all those political threads by a long shot!! A lot of other levergun fans here among us other trapshooters too
     
  11. k1200ltc509

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    For your viewing pleasure Calvin. 44 mag is on the bottom, and big brother .444 Marlin is on the top. I also have a .35 Rem, and a .450 Marlin that are out on Loan. The .35 Rem is a good gun, the .450 is just a bruiser. When I first bought the .450 we were shooting it into hardwood and it was splitting 10" hardwood logs, and penetrating 7" deep into the second log.

    Just looking for one in .41 magnum if anyone has one!!

    Thanks for all of the help, Rick Gibbs
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  12. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    Good luck on the 41Mag Rick...I have a 1894FG(pistol grip model) 41mag and its my favorite 94 by far...the prices on them are insane...love those 444's too..if you want a real monster get a 338Marlin Express
     
  13. Catpower

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    I love my lever guns, makes me feel like Lucas McCain, I have 6 Marlins a .30-30, 44,444, 450 and two .22's
     
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