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Help...Reloading Brass

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by dolphin77, Sep 23, 2009.

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  1. dolphin77

    dolphin77 Member

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    Hello...I have been reloading shotshells for years with a MEC 650...now I would like to start to reload pistol ammo. I need advice on a good reloader, I don't want a single stage, but something more progressive, and would like to find a "kit" so that I don't have to add later....any advice would be greatly appreciated...Thanks WC
     
  2. vpr80

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    Been using a Dillon XL650 for years. Not cheap, but I love mine. 800 rounds per hour without breaking a sweat. If $$$ is an issue, I believe that you can get a 550 and built it up from there by adding pieces with time.
     
  3. hmb

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    If your lucky you might find a used Star Progressive press. It is one of the best. HMB
     
  4. Quack Shot

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    Dillon is a great way to go. Buy the best you can afford. I've had a few for over a decade and they still load like new.
     
  5. BDodd

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    Ditto John - Mine was a 550 B and it handled all my handgun and rifle needs. If you're only going to load a handgun or two, however, the Square Deal B is all you need. One of the best thoughts with Dillon is their NO BS Warranty. If the loader becomes defective for any reason, ship it back and they'll repair or replace the whole thing; examples known to occur are folks that had a house burn down and destroy the loader and Dillon sent a new one then there's the fellow that bought a used one and dropped it out of his pickup bed when getting home - yup they sent a new one, even to the 2nd owner. Punch the address above and see their good stuff......Bob Dodd
     
  6. Andy44

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    I've used Lee presses for a long, long, long, very long time, and found them to produce great reloads for a minimal cost. Granted, Dillon is probably the "best" out there, but the difference in cost is HUGE!!! The difference in cost will buy a LOT of components!

    AndyH ;-)
     
  7. dolphin77

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    Thanks for all the help....the Dillion Sq Deal B sounds right, I am only interested in loading a couple of pistol rounds....9mm and 45 Thanks , WC
     
  8. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    That and the cost difference won't buy a "LOT" of components these days. You'll be able to get your money back from the Dillon if you sell it down the road. The Lee you'll have to give away.

    The exception to this might be the Lee 50 BMG setup, but even then it's not going head to head with a Dillon (yet).
     
  9. Savage99Stan

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    Lee progressives may sell for way less than half of a Dillon but you're getting less than a loader. The primer feeds on both the Pro1000 and Loadmaster suck. I repeat, they suck. Plastic gravity fed on an angle they tip primers, flip primers, skip primers and about five or more percent of your shells are faulty. That said, the shell feeders work well and the powder measure isn't bad. I have two and would like to get rid of them and buy one dillon. Dad and I had a pair of Stars, on in 38/357 and one in 45 we used for commercial loading and never...NEVER had a problem. Little brother had a Dillon 550 and it was as good in most respects. Spend more, get more.

    I fill my case feeders on the Lee, size and deprime. Then I prime with a hand tool, go back to the case feeder and charge and seat/crimp. Still have to use a single stage for the autos if I want a taper crimp.
     
  10. Quack Shot

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    For the extra 50 or 60 bucks, I'd get the 550B over the Square Deal B. I sold my two square deal Bs and now have several 550Bs, a plain jane 650 and a 650 with all the toys. The versatility of the 550B is a reason to pay the difference. The Lee stuff is ok for casual use, and I have some Lee stuff that's been around for ages. I just don't use it much, since it feels cheap to me. I've loaded a LOT of rifle ammo on the Dillons and they have performed well for me. I probably have as much or more money invested in spare parts, dies, and accessories than I do in the actual Dillon presses.
     
  11. ricks1

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    Lee is good if you know some tricks . If you have trouble changeing a hose washer then dont get one . You can get 3 lees for what a dillon cost. I have both and after i reworked the lee is is used more than the dillon 650. Dillon means $$$$$$ and the cal change is a hassel and costly
     
  12. Ahab

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    Why abuse yourself by going cheap?

    You cAN LOAD MOST PISTOL AMMO FOR UNDER $10/box. Most pistol ammo is around $30/box....unless you are happy with the Russian crap.

    20 boxes and your 550B is paid for!

    PS.....the 550B is only $15 more than the SDB
     
  13. tom-n8ies

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    For about $175.00 you can get a

    Lee Classic Turret, it is not progressive but with 4 pulls of the handle you get a loaded round and it can be changed to a single stage in 10 seconds. You can change calibers in about the same amount of time.

    It will load about 200 rounds per hour once you get going.

    Cabelas sells it as a kit also Kempfs sells as a kit with some upgrade options that most people prefer.

    https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=630&category_id=190&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41

    review here: http://www.realguns.com/archives/122.htm

    If you want a true progressive the Hornady Lock and Load is a tough deal to beat with the 1000 free bullets at about $375.00 and it has a prety happy following.

    If money is no object then go with the Dillon.

    tom
     
  14. vpr80

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    As other's have mentioned, go with the 550 if price is a concern. The SDB is a great loader, but it's not wroth the little bit in price difference and if you get into it, the 550 can be very upgraded and loaded.

    You will definitely have a learning curve with a progressive press, but if you take your time and learn it, you will love the Dillon.

    I loaded some 45ACP last night on my 650 for the first time in about 5 years and after 10 minutes I remembered how everything works and was cranking out ammo like there is no tomorrow. They really are great machines.
     
  15. shooterIII

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    I was just in the Dillon web site and noticed that with the "Dillon Sq Deal B" you cannot use standard (7/8" X 14) dies. That alone would encourage me to purchase the "RL 550B" unit, which I myself am thinking of purchasing.

    Stan
     
  16. Sigraph

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    First, are you going to reload in bulk??
    If not, think about going with a good single stage press (even a Lee). It will save you a lot of money, and for the money you save you can buy a case trimmer and a tumbler, powder measure - several sets of dies, bullets, powder, ammo trays and reload rifle cartridges too.

    I don't shoot over a couple hundred rounds when I go to the gun club with some handguns and a few rifles, and I enjoy getting out all my reloading "stuff" and spending an afternoon reloading on a single stage press.

    NOW - there are a lot of guys at the club that show up with half a dozen pistols, 45's with extended magazines and coffee cans or boxes full of thousands of rounds of ammo and shoot every bit of it. If you do that kind of pistol shooting - Get the Dillon.
     
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    Dillon, Dillon, Dillon....end of thread...
     
  18. Elk guide

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    I have always heard loading for autos was hard to get them to feed and some brands say don't shoot reloads in their guns. How much are the dillons 550 series. Been thinking about getting one. Thanks
     
  19. vpr80

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    I have a variety of autos and never had problems with reloads...you just need to make sure that they are sized and crimped correctly and they will function just fine. Then you can tune the charges for the different guns to keep it light, but still cycles reliably.
     
  20. shooterIII

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    The 550B is $406.95. I haven't found any place that one can get a discount, so go to the Dillon website and check out the prices of all that you might be interested in.

    As far as the statement "who cares if it doesn't use 7/8-14 dies?" I do because I have three sets of carbide dies and to replace them with Dillon dies at $60.95 ($182.50) it is a big deal.

    Stan
     
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