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Help Identify this powder

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by DecalDude, Dec 30, 2009.

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  1. DecalDude

    DecalDude Active Member

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    Thanks Been disposed of made neat sparkles in burn barrel, tossed in loose as no pressure, thanks to all for the safe advice!!!

    Thanks Jerry
     
  2. DecalDude

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    I can get a picture up later when the camera gets back here.
     
  3. poacherjoe

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    Sounds like 800X to me.Be on the safe side and use it for fertilizer.
     
  4. Trap2

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    Jerry.... THROW IT AWAY!!! Unless you know, without any doubt, what it is, you are messing with an accident waiting to happen. Is it worth the possibilites that could result for less than $10.00 worth of powder? Think about it!! Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  5. halfmile

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    yellow dots is 700X but I would toss it anyway.

    HM
     
  6. BDodd

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    Ditto those that call it 700X - always has had the yellow dots - but fertilize the tomatoes with such a small amount to worry about......Bob Dodd
     
  7. Jawhawker

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    Here's the problem. Both 700X and 800X can and do have yellow dots. A pic is worth the 1000 words here agin in this case. But your relying on info from people that you don't know. A bottle 3/4 full of any powder is not worth the chance of another persons answer. Its definetly not red dot and this is the guy that owned and used the powder... Now I've said it too and hope that you will listen to all of us.
     
  8. Kevin Fleming

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    I am in no way advocating the use of unidentified components....

    what is the potential harm in using say, 15gr of unknown propellant behind 7/8 or 1oz payload?

    K
     
  9. KEYBEAR

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    unknown propellant That is saying it all . Never load anything unknowen
     
  10. DecalDude

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    Well I was just in the loading room and looked at the powder bushing in this loader it was #29 which would have dropped 19.4gr of 800x(6200psi at 1100fps not a max load) or 17.5 of 700x(10200 psi and 1200fps max load in the table). I do not have any other bushings as my mec also used #29 and I used 700x years ago for my hunting loads but I havent had any 700x in 9 years. I do have 10 bushings for the Apex loader that could load down to 14gr. Not enough powder for use for me to load trap but could load him enough shells for squirrel for a while.
     
  11. wayneo

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    Kevin, there is potential...That could be good, or worse yet,very bad.

    Jerry, Martin is right.

    Remember....When in doubt, throw it out.Wayne
     
  12. chipking

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    What part of DUMP IT IN THE FLOWER BED do you not want to understand. If you want to impress your friend loading him a bunch of shells that may destroy his gun and injure him is probably not the best way to do it.

    --- Chip King ---
     
  13. DecalDude

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    Well its been disposed of made neat sparkles in the burn barrel.(tossed in loose as to have no pressure)
     
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    i am quorious about useing in garden,i have a small garden(25'x40')never heard of gun powder for fertilizer,how mutch,and should i give my vegies to the people i dont like????i have some real old& unidentifiable powder,and if it works in the garden it will keep me from making a few big firecrackers.mark
     
  15. Rum River

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    09newbie,

    Definitely was the right thing to do. It's even possible there was more than one type of powder in there.

    Once upon a time I bought a Garand that came with 200 rounds of handloads. I pulled them all down for the bullets & cases and dumped the powder and primers.

    In some of those rounds were two different kinds of powders. The loader said he thought as long as there was data for both powders it was okay.

    Lunacy...............

    Dan
     
  16. halfmile

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    Just for conversation.........29 is the bushing for 700X.

    800X has "neutral" colored identifiers which could be called yellow on a quick glance.

    700 ID's are genuine yellow.

    You could probably load out some shells on the stuff you acquired. But for the teeny bit of gain, toss and feel better.

    HM
     
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    Whatever you do don't spread it in the bean patch. It could cause a great explosion!! I don't know what all our saftey people are thinking!!

    Bill
     
  18. Dr.Longshot

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    My 800-X does not have yellow dots in it.

    Gary Bryant
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  19. hmb

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    Gun powder is rich in nitrogen which is a good plant food. HMB
     
  20. Haskins Bill

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    hmb is correct about high nitrogen content of gunpowder. A little story about home made firecrackers. A old firend of mine was intertaining his stepsons by helping them make reusable firecrackers with Pyrodex and or black powder and some carborad tubes with plugs. Well long story short they ran out of black powder and Pyrodex so the fun was over. Next day or so while he is at work the boys got out some of his rifle powder or maye shotgun powder and tried it in those card board tubes. It did not work so well and they decided to make a huge one using rolled up newspaper. That too did not explode but it sure as hell burned fast there on the slab of the back porch. The only thing that saved the house from burning down was the quick thinking of the oldest one who grabbed the garden hose. Bill
     
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