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Help identify this Perazzi - What the hell is it?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Hookedonshooting, Jul 15, 2013.

  1. Hookedonshooting

    Hookedonshooting TS Member

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    Was shooting my Perazzi TMX when attempting to remove a spent shell, the gun wouldnt break open. Dropped the trigger out of it and saw this little piece in the receiver well. Couldnt get it out, but it moved. so I put the trigger back in, and everthing worked fine, for about 50 shells. Then this little piece made the trigger not work (got wedged in somehow and it was like a safety was on). Dropped the trigger out and this time was able to get it out. The gun is working fine, BUT where the heck did the piece (which looks sheared on one end) come from? The primer next to it is to aid in size/scale. Adding pic of the trigger and receiver. thank for your help




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  2. Ed Y

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    Could it have come out of that release hammer?

    Ed Yanchok
     
  3. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    Looks like the hammer was once altered making it a release. Could it be the pin that the release hook rides on when the trigger is set?
     
  4. flashmax

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    Look at your bottom photo. Look at the section just even and then leftward of the woodline. Looks to be a place for a rivet to have been in there. That is a rivet I believe and the peened end has broken off of it. Look for a countersunk hole where two pieces join and might be there is a fastener missing.

    Just a guess, can't manipulate the mechanism to see for sure.

    Don T. Littleton CO
     
  5. Ed Y

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    Don,
    That hole is an access hole to put a punch in to remove the top lever

    Ed Yanchok
     
  6. Hookedonshooting

    Hookedonshooting TS Member

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    Don, agrre with Ed's logic. heres a better photo.


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  7. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    Flash. The "hole" you see is a service guide and oiling port for the locking block. Nothing goes in it.
     
  8. Sky Buster

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    I agree with Roach.
     
  9. Hookedonshooting

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    If it was a piece from the top lever, it wouldnt work correct? Which it does. And what happened to the other side of the piece it separated from? no rattles.
     
  10. flashmax

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    Thanks for the better photo and the detail on that hole. The piece still looks like a rivet though. If the two links I posted work right there are drawings from Whizzer's pages of the TMX. I can't see anything on them but then again I don't have hands-on familiarity with a P-gun.


    Don T. Littleton CO
     
  11. skeet_man

    skeet_man Well-Known Member

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    Is it the same diameter as the hole in your hammer?
     
  12. flashmax

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    This one is of the coil spring trigger group. I still don't see a rivet here but maybe the end of the hammer guide #5193 broke off?


    Also cut and paste this drawing page;

    http://www.swsupply.com/downloads/TM1TMXSchematic.pdf

    and this one;

    http://www.swsupply.com/downloads/detachableUSA1_4-4.pdf

    since the links didn't post well above. They lead you to Whizzer's pages on P-guns.

    Don T. Littleton CO
     
  13. Ed Y

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    As I said in the first reply, It's the pin from your release hammer.

    Ed Yanchok
     
  14. joe90t

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    JMO, Look at the RIGHT side of hammer (if trigger was in gun--Small "ring" around hole for release pin. Appears it has been 'Working". Joe joe90t
     
  15. semperfi909

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    If it fits that hole in the hammer there ain't much mystery

    Pin missing from hole, found a pin floating around, gee I wonder ??????
     
  16. Hookedonshooting

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    Yes threre is a hole in the hammer. Not sure why there would be a rivot there. will look at the schematics. the length of the sheared piece is longer than the width of the hammer. i'll recheck it
     
  17. Barry C. Roach

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    It's not a rivet. Your trigger was altered and turned into a release trigger. The maker machined out a notch in the hammer, drilled a hole and installed a very hard "stud" there (probably welded or swedged in place and machined or filed flush with the side of the hammer). The rest of the system included a "hook" that, when the trigger is set, rests over the stud. When the trigger is released the hook lifts off of the stud and the hammer is released to fire the gun. That piece is that "stud".

    Throw it in a drawer or garbage can and forget it. Your trigger will be just fine although it's hammer is now lighter and may have changed the lock time, albeit probably infinitesimally.

    Much ado about little. Quit worrying. Good luck.
     
  18. Stl Flyn

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    If it works without it, don't fix it. LOL

    It does look like a release type pin hole in your hammer.
     
  19. Hookedonshooting

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    Thanks Roach and all the comments. I' ve never examined a Perazzi set up as a release. Sold my TM! last month so i had nothing to compare it to. Thanks again
     
  20. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    Did you compare the pin to the hole in the hammer?? That must be what it is so tell us if it fits or we must acquit? :)

    HAP