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help identify suitable beginner trap gun

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by stut71, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. stut71

    stut71 TS Member

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    Looking to get into casual/club trap. Would like the versatility to be able to shoot doubles and maybe 5 stand sporting clays. Currently using field guns which shoot very flat( Citori white Lightning and old Ithaca mod 37) I have had some experience with a Rem 1100 classic trap and found that gun shot flat and beat my face as well. Thus I am not keen on a Remington. Since cost is an issue I am looking at BPS and Ithaca model 37 trap. Ithaca says the gun can be purchased with either 60/40 or 70/30 point of impact. How about the BPS - can't find any reference on whether they have an elevated POI and what it is. The Ithaca and BPS are in about the same price range so that is not the issue. So I am in a quandary. Thanks in advance, Steve
     
  2. Hank55

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    If I was to only have one gun and wanted to use it in multiple events (singles, handicap & doubles), I believe I would look seriously at a Citori Trap. You can find used ones reasonable on Gun Brokers and even pick up a good used one at a trap club. They are easy to replace springs in if broken and I feel are hard to beat for the price.
     
  3. daddiooo

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    I'd second that recommendation for a Browning Citori.

    Either a Browning Special Trap Edition, or their Special Sporting Clays Edition, or an XT O/U will serve you well for all clay target disciplines.
     
  4. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    Get a gun with or install an adjustable comb.
     
  5. ljuticsscentennialpro

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    Shooting doubles well with a BPS pump would be difficult. Also shucking hulls on the ground is a mess for the squad during doubles. Further, the BPS loads thru the bottom of the receiver and it's easier to lose track of having live shells in the mag tube, and more of a pain to unload. You might make due for now by putting a Cheek-eez of the right thickness on the Lightning to raise the POI and reduce face-slap. Then save up for the right gun. All the posters above are spot on about a Citori trap or sporting with an adjustable comb. Best bang for the buck. Bob
     
  6. ArmyMechanic

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    Rem 3200?
     
  7. Reuben Sandwich

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    Rem 3200 for a beginner gun?

    Just Say No.
     
  8. Bob Schultz

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    Why not a Rem. 1100 trap or a nice used Beretta A-391? If kept clean they are very reliable and they don't beat your brains out like an O/U.

    Lots of great shooters like the late Leo Harrison, Earl Scripture and California's Mike Mazzucci whipped our collective butts with guns that cost less than $1000. I still have my Rem 1100 Trap that I won the Florida State Handicap with (100x100). It still shoots great!

    Just my 2 cents worth....and I sell the expensive guns!

    Bob Schultz - Target Shotguns, Inc.
     
  9. Martinpicker

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    I am a fan of the BPS Trap gun, but not for your purposes. I agree with those above who suggest a Citori Trap. I have a 1992 Grade III with adjustable comb, (not for sale,) that would be something like what you need. You can get a gun like mine in a Grade I for under $1000. Martinpicker
     
  10. grnberetcj

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    Go Beretta....lots of versatility, reliability and ease of maintenance...

    Curt
     
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    I am very partial to Citori's myself owning 5 of them as I write this. For the money, they are the best built gun for what you intend to use it for and will give you years of dependable service if properly lubricated and maintained. I would also tend to agree with Bob Schultz on the 1100 or the 391. They are both battle tested and are a lot less pricey than the Citori. Problem with them is you are not going to make any friends on the trap line if you plan on shooting doubles with it.

    Jeff
     
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    Get an 1100, with a Jack West Stock--you can raise the POI & with the adjustments you'll get rid of the slap.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  13. Hookedonshooting

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    The Citori trap i had shot a lil flat. But it didnt have an adjustable comb, if you get one, suggest, like Mr Roach did, install one or buy one with it.
     
  14. Oregunner

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    Get an adjustable comb put on the Citori that you already have, if it has 28" barrels. Or at least put a comb pad on it to raise the POI, and go shooting.
    Mark
     
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    Go with a break open gun .Nobody want's to shoot behind a auto loader and get hit with empty shells .I have seen it cause problem's , happen to me shooting doubles, was not nice. CHARLIE
     
  16. stut71

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    I did a lot of work analyzing my form and results plus read the replies. What roach said made a lot of sense. The gun doesn't fit well and the problem seems to be the comb height seems low for trap. Length of pull is good. Remember it's a field gun. Instead of blowing a lot of money on a new gun that may or may not fit, I am going to work on it and get where I can shoot the gun I have. am sending it out to get an adjustable comb this week.
     
  17. Barry C. Roach

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    Make sure if you buy something that is popular. Usually, carefully buying a used popular gun, made for the purpose and in great working order wont cost you much to try it. They usually hold their value.

    For example one good choice would be an older Remington 1100 Trap. You can find them for $500 to $600 and, if you take good care of it, it will still be worth that when you sell it. The same thing applies to a used Beretta autoloader. Those are very good starting guns that, if you fall in love with them they can be lifetime guns, properly taken good care of.

    Good luck.
     
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    Get a Ruger red label with the longest barrels that you can get. they are built like a tank and will go up in value every year. Also Ruger maintains and repairs them free. Bill
     
  19. Hookedonshooting

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    Only concern re the Ruger Red Label, is you HAVE to send it to Ruger for repairs is something goes wrong. My gunsmith tried to order parts to fix a friends Red Label and was rebuffed.
     
  20. slayer

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    OK your friend didn't know that Ruger maintains their products for free. That would be the only reason that it was at the gunsmith? There is no down side to having free repair work done by the manufacturer. Bill