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Having Problems with Federal Hulls

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Jollytrapshooter, Mar 6, 2008.

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  1. Jollytrapshooter

    Jollytrapshooter Member

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    Hello all, haven't been on the site for quite some time. With trapshooting season coming up I've been getting more into reloading to get ready. Tonight I was loading some older style federal hulls on my 650, and as I put a new hull on and rotated the carrier, what was supposed to be a finished hull, was just the brass base with the primer sticking out, and the actual hull with the base wad was lodged in the finish crimper. I was amazed that it didn't spill powder everywhere. Has anyone else had this problem with the older ribbed hulls? Thanks, Josh.
     
  2. famill00

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    Nope. But then again all the federals I have loaded are the cheap ones from the value pack. 3/4 of an ounce of 9's for skeet...shoot them once then let them hit the ground.
    Forrest
     
  3. Frye

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    I had an STS hull stick in the finish crimper. Darndest thing...Only happended once and the shell stayed intact but it was a bit of a battle to get the press back in the UP posititon. The shell looked fine, crimp was a little con caved, not bad so I shot the shell, let it hit the ground and haven't had any others stick since. I don't reload Fed's so I can't say what went wrong with yours.

    Jeff (frye)
     
  4. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

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    Sounds like more of a problem with the Reloader, not the hulls.

    Maybe your loader needs to be sent to Mec and rebuilt, etc.

    Over the years I have loaded thousands (50K +) of Federals (Gold Medals, Top Guns, Field Loads, Walmart MP's, etc, etc.) with only slight adjustments to the machine.

    Curt - Delaware
     
  5. alfermann66

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    Sounds like you haven't been loading for awhile. Maybe, your crimping die is a little rusty on the inside. Mine used to get that way when I wasn't loading much, but doing 30k a year now keeps 'em poslished. A little steel wool(any grade)wrapped around an old brass brush and attached to a drill will clean it out.

    Buz
     
  6. alfermann66

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    If you want to load GM plastic you better stock up on hulls. From what I hear Federal is no longer going to make them....just Top Gun and Wally Bullets.

    Buz
     
  7. grunt

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    Check gunbroker site there are Federal ribbed GMs for sale in California.Once fired..
     
  8. dverna

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    I do not like the Federal hulls. Too many hull separations. AA's and STS's will split at the crimp or side - the GM's will totally separate from the brass head.

    I will load the ones I have one more time and dump them on the ground.

    Don
     
  9. School Teacher

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    I have reloaded the older ribbed Gold Medal hull on a MEC Grabber for years and have never had a separation. The crimps get weak and split after 5 or more reloads but I have never had a separation.

    I loaded 50 of the new slick once fired GM hulls for games last week and shot them in practice from the 27 - 35 yard line. I used a published Alliant load of 1 1/8 oz of hard 6's, 21.5 grains of Green Dot, Federal F209 A primer and Federal 12S3 wad.

    They hit targets as hard as if they had been shot at 16 yards. For a 1250 fps load, they really shot soft. As they are not legal in ATA, I plan to load some with hard 7 1/2's and repeat the practice.

    I normally shoot 1 oz of 8's at 1150 fps in ATA but the 1250 fps 1 1/8 oz loads really smoked the targets.

    I like the new smooth GM hull.
     
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