1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

Have you ever fired your doctor?

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by senior smoke, Aug 14, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. senior smoke

    senior smoke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2007
    Messages:
    7,577
    Location:
    Wauwatosa Wisconsin
    Hello:
    My mother has a female doctor and my mother is in her 80's. She seems to be good at what she does but seems to order unnecessary expensive test for her.

    She has now referred her to two different specialist, and both of the specialist stated that there was no need for her to have these expensive test, and no need for her to have been referred to them.

    I have told her doctor that my mother is obviously retired,and is on a very fixed income. Despite telling her this she has her come in 2 times per year for physicals, and has her come in once a month for numerous blood test, as she is healthier than myself.

    We just received the bills for all these test and specialist and they are astronomical. When is it time to fire a doctor as this doctor is putting my mother and myself in the poor house?

    This female doctor is a foreigner and could they possibly do things differently from the country she comes from? Could it be this doctor is being pressured to run up the insurance bills on behalf of the clinic this doctor works for?
    Steve Balistreri
     
  2. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    7,969
    Location:
    Eastern Washington
    More then likely, Steve.

    With all the mal-pratice law suits going on and the cost of upper management of clinics now days, a lot of nu-necessary test are taken.

    Remember the First woman sat on a Hospital board and received almost a half million dollars for "sitting" in board meetings!!

    Hospitals and Clinics are as "top heavy" as any government agency! and operate(pun intended)in the same fashion!

    Being a "Foreigner" probably has nothing to do with it.
     
  3. yakimaman

    yakimaman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    2,738
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    I've fired two of them. And I made sure they knew it and why. One was incompetent (do you know if your MD graduated at the top of his med school class or at the bottom?) and the other was similar to what you're going through. Doctors, dentists - any professional is providing a service to a customer based on the customers needs and the providers education and experience. When that provider fails to provide that service adequately then fire them the same as you would a lawyer or the local car mechanic. But don't just change MDs and not let them know. I scheduled one last appointment, waited my hour + past my appt time to get my normal 5 minute face to face and used that time to tell them just what I thought of them.
     
  4. Bisi

    Bisi TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,399
    Yes, I had to get rid of my doctor, and I'm ready to get rid of my dentist.

    I'm self employed and I have a $7500 deducitable. My Dr. was nickle and diming me to death. He was charging me $250 for a LIPID panel test. He wanted that done every 3 months, he wouldn't phone or mail the results. I had to go to his office to get the results and then he nailed me for an office call then. I wasn't sick and yet he had me at his office 10 to 12 times a year.

    I finally had to make a change. It wasn't only the cost but I was missing a lot of work being at the DR office all the time.

    I now get my LIPID panel done for $27 and get the results right away.

    Most of these Doctors are so afraid of lawsuits they over test. Can't say I blame em though, after being sued myself, it is one miserable thing to go through.

    My late Dad told me to save my money because when the Doctors get ahold of you - you are going to need it.
     
  5. wpairishshot

    wpairishshot Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2009
    Messages:
    173
    About a month and a half ago I went to an ambulatory surgery center and was greeted by a Russian anesthesiologist who tried to tell me he was going to put me under (general anesthetic) for a tendon operation on my arm. I had been told I was going to have a nerve block, and I asked him why he wanted to give me the general. He wasnt able to communicate enough for me to understand what he wanted to tell me. I fired him and walked out, went to a different ambulatory surgery center, had a nerve block, had the surgery and and am waiting for the day I get clearance to take my shotgun out and get back to shooting trap.

    Had a dentist tell me ho couldnt do effective work on my teeth unless he gave me shots of novocaine. I didnt like the fact of non-discriminatory shots in my mouth so I found a new dentist and fired him!
     
  6. JayZap

    JayZap Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    316
    Location:
    S.E Penna.
    I didn't fire my Doctor, but I did walk into the examination room to find him lying dead on the floor.
     
  7. cunninmp

    cunninmp Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2008
    Messages:
    639
    Steve,
    Same thing happened to my Mother. All the DR wanted was money.
    Had her go through some god awful tests for nothing. Oh, and she was
    92 at the time and had Alzheimer's.
    I looked around and found a doctor that would take MediCare. The new doctor
    was even shocked at what the first one had ordered.
    Needless to say, when the first doctor's office called when she missed
    her next appointment, I told them exactly what I thought. I guess it had
    happened before because they really were not shocked.
    Find your Mother another Doctor.

    Mike C.

    Groveland, CA
     
  8. Catpower

    Catpower Molon Labe TS Supporters

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    10,247
    Location:
    In the Cabana
    I've fired a few, they were just high dollar drug pushers

    Now I go to the VA, best place I've ever been, but the N Texas VA is rated at about the top in the system, and they are great

    The first time I went there I had to take all the drugs I was taking, they said I didn't need a few of them and most of the others were able to be prescribed with generic

    My old Dr would prescribe the highest priced drugs there were for whatever condition I had

    He either had a false sense of perceived value or he was getting kickbacks

    And knowing that he just married a high maintenance much younger girl than him I suspect the latter
     
  9. Norsky

    Norsky Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Messages:
    63
    We fired one Dr. because he was so arrogent. As we were paying him for his time, he worked for us. He didn't like it when we asked questions. As each of us is responsible for our own health we need to ask questions. We got a Dr. that took his time with us, asked us if we had any questions and he never felt threatened by us asking questions. He actually listened to us when we talked to him. We moved and our new Dr. is much like our last Dr. Great guy. Regards,
    Ray
     
  10. senior smoke

    senior smoke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2007
    Messages:
    7,577
    Location:
    Wauwatosa Wisconsin
    I read every response so far. It sure seems what my mother is going through is almost the norm. My mother likes her doctor but we just can't afford her anymore. She refuses to mail test results to my mother, and request that I bring her in so she can talk to her in person.

    They then charged my mother a fee to speak to the doctor. I asked the doctor why these test could not be mailed and she said she felt it better to discuss the results with her elderly patients.

    I was in the office with my mom, the doctor read off the results and said her blood sugar was a little high at 110 so watch her sugar intake. Since January 1st, she has seen this doctor a total of 14 times plus seen 2 specialist and nothing is wrong with her. She's as good as gone. Any advice on finding a new good doctor?
    Steve
     
  11. Catpower

    Catpower Molon Labe TS Supporters

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    10,247
    Location:
    In the Cabana
    Steve it's kind of a shot in the dark it seems, my wife is about to fire her's everytime they renew her prescription they mess it up and it takes about three trips to the pharmacy for the doctor to finally get it right
     
  12. likes-to-shoot

    likes-to-shoot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2006
    Messages:
    6,093
    Location:
    Iowa
    I go to two doctors, my general practitioner at home and a heart specialist in Des Moines. Not only they fax results of any tests or opinions to each other they have talked on the phone so I would say they both work together very well in my best interest.

    I do agree that if a person is not satisfied with their Dr. regardless of the reason by all means switch.
     
  13. Big Jack

    Big Jack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,735
    Location:
    Erie, Pa
    A friend brought one thing to my attention that I never noticed..When the Dr. finally comes into the room the first thing he or she looks at is the second or third sheet on the clip board. If you ever have the opportunity to peek, you'll see they are the insurance information..and they check that before they do anything. They also get a kick-back for every referal. Makes you wonder just who they are really working for!

    Big Jack
     
  14. senior smoke

    senior smoke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2007
    Messages:
    7,577
    Location:
    Wauwatosa Wisconsin
    Things have really changed, for the better??? When I was a kid my doctor would come out to the house and charge $3.00. If my mom did not have enough money to pay she invited him for lunch and he called it even.

    He weighed over 400 lbs and smoked while listening to my heart beat with his stethoscope. When I was a teenager he said that I needed to watch my weight and said not to start smoking.

    When was the last time you ever saw a doctor smoke, even while he was examining you? His brother owned a funeral home. So one brother delivered you and the other buried you. He had another brother and not sure what he did at the funeral parlor, maybe cremations?
    Steve
     
  15. 391 shooter

    391 shooter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2008
    Messages:
    2,094
    To answer your question: YES!



    My freind of mine is a orthopedic surgeon, boy's and girls it is the biggest good ole boy and girl club in the country. They get paid for everything they order,referells etc ect. Send someone to rehab, you get a check everytime they visit the rehab with or without the Dr being there. So if you can get 30 or 40 people steady in rehab, well you get the point. You go to see him, buddy, you are getting the full monty on x-rays at his office with his antique machine.

    Do not be afraid to question everything.

    But in his defense his malpractice insurance is in the high 6's per year.
     
  16. CharlieAMA

    CharlieAMA TS Supporters TS Supporters

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    12,604
    Location:
    God's Country
    Yes, I have fired one. My first back surgery was in 2002. I went 4 years doing OK, wearing a corset type brace, but I was going down hill. I called his office, left a message, and it was a week before they called me back. When they did, I told them that I was having more trouble, and needed to come in. They asked when my last MRI was. I couldn't remember, so I asked her to look it up. She said it had been 2 years, and I needed a new one. So, I asked her to schedule it. She said I had to go thru my primary physician to get one, and get refered back to them. I asked if I was still his patient after four years, and she said yes, but that is how they do it. I argued and lost, and slammed the phone down. A friend got me into another nuerosurgeon, and his office called me, and asked how soon I could get in to fill out paper work. I have never looked back. When I went back to pick up my records from the first doctor, the receptionist asked me why I was changing. I told her that I guess they didn't need my business, if it takes them a week to call me back. Charlie Henderson
     
  17. senior smoke

    senior smoke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2007
    Messages:
    7,577
    Location:
    Wauwatosa Wisconsin
    It is obvious that with even doctors there are some good ones and some not so good. When did they get so greedy?
    Steve
     
  18. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    10,521
    Location:
    Idaho
    My son is Chief Operating Officer at a large hospitol and you would not believe the stories I have heard about negligent Doctors and doctors with drug and booze problems. He also has stories about good ones of course.
     
  19. Shotgunbutch

    Shotgunbutch Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    210
    My Doctor fired me!

    I had an appointment with him. When I went the girl at the desk asked me if
    my insurance had changed since the last time I was there. I said I had the same insurance as I am carried under my wife's insurance. But since I turned 65 I also have Medicare. She said they will not take anyone with Medicare. I told her I don't use the Medicare as I use my wife's insurance. WE had a very heated discussion and a phone call but they turned me out. I was mad.

    Arnie
     
  20. schneep

    schneep Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2012
    Messages:
    215
    Steve, are you really Ann Landers alter ego?? :):)
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.