1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.

Has anyone had experience with S&W 1911 sc??????

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Charlie Becknell, Jul 2, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Charlie Becknell

    Charlie Becknell Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,341
    My wife has been wanting a 1911 45acp and we saw the S&W 1911 e series sc (scandium). I have no knowledge of the use of scandium , for instance "does it rust"? How well does it hold up? She also looked at the Springfield 1911 TRP. I have S&W 1911 Pro Series S&W and have been fond of it. Your suggestions are welcome. I found the TRP to have a very rough grip below the trigger guard, does this "bite" the hand when using ?

    Charlie
  2. Sky Buster

    Sky Buster Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,190
    Location:
    Minnesota
    S&W has been producing Scandium model for over 12 years. No problems
    I've ever heard of. If you do have a problem, the 'lifetime warranty"
    should cover it.
  3. gousgouni

    gousgouni TS Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2012
    Messages:
    19
    S&w scandium models are state of the art carry 1911s. Notice I mentioned carry. Even though they are very accurate, the lightweight costs more recoil. If that is not an issue, then go for it and do not have any worries
  4. stokinpls

    stokinpls Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    5,163
    I got to shoot one for 10 rounds during the Smith&Wesson Days at the local indoor range. It was equipped with a Crimson Trace grip and would put a 230 RN right where that red dot was on every shot. It also seem to have milder (maybe just different) recoil than my MarkIV Series 70. The gun itself may have been tweaked just for the demo, but it was impressive. Intended to buy one, but never seemed to have all of the money needed at one time. Good luck.
  5. deercreek

    deercreek Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,033
    Location:
    Indiana
    The Scandium is much lighter and will result in more recoil...is she up for that? My buddy has a Scandium in 357 that he only shot once with 357's, this is a guy who is an instructor and easily shoots 4K rounds per year and he states it was like a bomb in the hand. My wife shoots around 5-8K rounds per year and I would not consider any lightweight 1911 for her and she is no wimp by any means.
  6. short shucker

    short shucker TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,944
    The E series S&W and the TRP from Springfield are two of the very best values in the 1911 market right now. You have to spend a lot more to buy the same quality elsewhere. I own one of each and they are both keepers! No increased recoil with the use of the scandium frame. Those dudes slide like butter!

    If you can find one of the bob tailed commander E series pistols, that's the one to get.

    ss
  7. stokinpls

    stokinpls Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    5,163
    "My buddy has a Scandium in 357 that he only shot once with 357's - it was like a bomb in the hand."

    Agreed. They had one of their short barreled Scandium .357's at the range for Smith&Wesson Days too. The gaved me 5 full steam 125 JHPs. I fired one round and returned the gun with the remaining 4 rounds. I didn't think it felt like a "bomb", but more like grabbing hot 110V wire - the heck with that. They had a .500 S&W Magnum there too. Fortunately (for me), when they sent the gun to the shop owner, someone had locked the safety on it and didn't include the key. He was not happy.
  8. Charlie Becknell

    Charlie Becknell Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,341
    Will it resist rusting as well as SS?
  9. MTA Tom

    MTA Tom Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,294
    Scandium is an element, a very expensive one. S&W adds it in small amounts (maybe less than 1%) to the aluminum alloy in their high end frames. I found this on the Smith & Wesson forum:

    "When added to aluminium, scandium substantially lowers the rate of recrystallization and associated grain-growth in weld heat-affected zones. Aluminium, being a face-centred-cubic metal, is not particularly subject to the strengthening effects of the decrease in grain diameter. However, the presence of fine dispersions of Al3Sc does increase strength by a small measure, much as any other precipitate system in aluminium alloys. It is added to aluminium alloys primarily to control that otherwise excessive grain growth in the heat-affected zone of weldable structural aluminium alloys, which gives two knock-on effects; greater strengthening via finer precipitation of other alloying elements and by reducing the precipitate-free zones that normally exist at the grain boundaries of age-hardening aluminium alloys.

    The original use of scandium-aluminium alloys was in the nose cones of some USSR submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs). The strength of the resulting nose cone was enough to enable it to pierce the ice-cap without damage, and so, enabling a missile launch while still submerged under the Arctic ice cap."
  10. short shucker

    short shucker TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,944
    No rust issues whatsoever with the scandium alloy. I've got probably 1500 rounds through mine so far with absolutely zero issues. Not even one FTF. The action is so smooth and the grips are the right profile to keep the gun solidly positioned in your hand without excessive grip pressure.

    I locked it down in a ransome rest along with my TRP (severe duty), and my Les Baer Thunder Ranch. The best groupings out of the three was the TRP that held a 1.63" 7 shot group at 25 yards. The S&W and the LB were both just under 2". I used the same handloaded 230 grain ammo to eliminate as many variables as possible.

    ss
  11. g7777777

    g7777777 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    9,217
    Its an aluminum receiver- small alloy amounts probably- no rust- marketing ploy

    The question is how much do you think you are ever going to shoot this

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
  12. Shooting Coach

    Shooting Coach Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2006
    Messages:
    7,333
    Location:
    Nashville Tn
    For a low mileage carry gun, not so bad. I have seen serious frame peening in high mileage shooters.

    A light 45 is going to kick more than a heavy 45.

    If you are going to shoot it much, get the all steel gun.

    If you are going to shoot it and not carry it, get one with adjustable sights.

    Better yet, for a shooter, get a Sig Target 1911. Beats the Smith (or most anything else), hands down.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.