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handicap rule

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by RickN, Sep 13, 2011.

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  1. RickN

    RickN Well-Known Member

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    You could have shot with them.
     
  2. V10

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    Sounds like shoot management doesn't understand the rules.

    For one thing, shooters stand on the whole yard, not the half yard. So you are effectively, for squadding purposes, on the 21 yard line.

    Don't know what software they were using, so that's a separate issue.

    And, the "18, 19 or 20" yard rule is not new. We just changed the wording slightly.

    Contact your state delegate and have him talk with shoot management and get them straightened out.
     
  3. Just-A-Shooter

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    You could have shot with them as long as you were between the two 20 yard shooters. They probably would have to tell the computer that you were a 21 yard shooter.
    You could not have shot next to a 19 yard shooter and if the squad was set already this might have been the problem.
     
  4. perga1

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    I believe under the newest version of this rule you cannot squad shooters with more than a 2 yard difference on any squad with 18 - 20 yard shooters. One yard between shooters and 2 yards for the whole squad. It is true the 1/2 yard had nothing to do with the computer stopping the addition of a 21.5 yard shooter. You could have been squadded as long as you had a post between you and the 19 yarder. JRM
     
  5. 320090T

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    2. In Handicap there shall be no more than two (2) yards difference between adjacent shooters in the squad, and no more than a total difference of three (3) yards in a squad. If 18, 19 or 20 yard shooters are in a squad, there shall be no more than one yard (1) difference between adjacent shooters in the squad and no more than a total difference of two (2) yards in the squad.
     
  6. hmb

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    What did you say? HMB
     
  7. V10

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    Don,

    Did you even read what I wrote?
     
  8. hunter44

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    The 1/2 yard has nothing to do with it.
     
  9. V10

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    What confusion?

    Section VI, A, paragraph 2:

    "A contestant must stand on the highest whole yardage punched on his/her card. For example, if a card is punched at 20.5 yards, the shooter will stand on 20.0 yards. However, if one-half (1/2) yard is then earned, the card must be punched to 21.0 yards and the shooter must stand on the 21.0 yard line."

    Your half yard is of no consequence when squadding, or shooting for that matter. You stand on the 21 yard line. The other shooters were standing on either the 19 or 20 yard lines. There would be no more than two yards difference on that squad, and provided you are between the 20 yard shooters (which is the only place you could be properly squadded), there would be no more than 1 yard between adjacent shooters.

    So, what part of the following rule is confusing?

    Section IV, G, 2:

    "2. In Handicap there shall be no more than two (2) yards difference between adjacent shooters in the squad, and no more than a total difference of three (3) yards in a squad. If 18, 19 or 20 yard shooters are in a squad, there shall be no more than one yard (1) difference between adjacent shooters in the squad and no more than a total difference of two (2) yards in the squad."

    In your instance there were 19 and 20 yard shooters on the squad. A 21 yard shooter, or even a 21.5 yard shooter, being on that squad would violate no rule, provided that shooter was squadded between the 20 yard shooters.

    Now, tell me please, what about all of that is confusing?
     
  10. daddiooo

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    That 18 yard thing just needs to go away.

    1 of the dumbest rules they've ever come up with. If you can't break a target from the 19 you need to be shooting singles only.


    GGEEEEZZZZ.
     
  11. 320090T

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    Why shoot handicap targets if you shoot from the 18?
     
  12. BIGDON

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    I see the question asker has deleted and gone. Must have been really important to him.

    Don
     
  13. BigM-Perazzi

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    Took his pot and paddle and moved on lol
     
  14. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    The average singles shooters average is lower than dozens of the better handicap averages. In handicap shooting, they'd get their butts handed to them even if they shot caps from the 16!

    Hap
     
  15. dverna

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    Hap,

    You are so right. There are a lot of people who cannot average 90 from the 16.

    I do not understand some of you other guys. What harm is it you personally if someone shoots from the 18 or 19 yard line? I see folks who cannot be competitive having fun on the 18 yard line. GOOD FOR THEM - and good for the sport.

    Too bad there are a few "men" with such negative attitudes in this sport. I hope you have a child or grandchild one day and learn why the 18 and 19 yard lines are not "dumb". We need to encourage more targets in the air, not fewer.

    Don Verna
     
  16. BigM-Perazzi

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    I enjoy watching the guy shooting 95 from 18, but can't avg 93 from 16....
     
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