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H & R handi-rifle

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by slayer, Jul 7, 2012.

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  1. slayer

    slayer Well-Known Member

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    About 20 years ago a gun dealer that I worked with at the time [both of us postal employees] came up with an idea that proved at the time to be nothing short of brilliant. He proposed that we buy 45-70 handi-rifles and convert them to 45 cal. muzzleloaders. This consisted of machining a brass plug for the breech that would hold a standard shotgun primer. Long story short, they worked great and we had a very economical and accurate muzzleloader. One of the very first ones that you could easily clean! Well, I leant it out to a young relative and it came back pitted and dirty. I think that it is new barrel time. After going to H and R's website, I see that I can get a barrel in S&W 500. Would this be the same bore as .50 cal? I'd love to use the same method and move up to 50 cal. Bill
     
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    I believe they made one in a .58 cal years ago.
     
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    There is a guy on this forum that makes them. The website I believe is Smokeless Muzzleloading Inc from Indiana. They are easy to use and smokeless powder capable too.
     
  4. slayer

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    Even better, thanks 6chuter. I will research the .58. I never tried it, but I think the standard brass, cut off maybe halfway would be sufficient ignition for the black powder.
    This would save me some machine shop cost. Bill
     
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    They made an H & R Huntsman,Model 156 in .45 and .58 cal.. I have 2 in .45 cal. with adapters to use a 209 shot shell primer. They had a semi telescopic ram rod and were a very good foul weather primitive weapon season gun. When I purchased them and deer hunted in the late 70's it was always wet weather here in Ohio.

    I would sell one of these if anyone is interested. Sorry I don't own a camera. Richard
     
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    Back to my original question: Does anyone know if a S&W 500 is the same bore as a .50 cal? thanks Bill
     
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    The 500 smith shoots a .500 bullet and the bore is .490 so it would be hard to get bullets the right size to fit that bore as a muzzleloader bore is 500.
     
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