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GUNBROKER PURCHASE GONE BAD

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by bt100ed, Dec 15, 2008.

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  1. bt100ed

    bt100ed TS Supporters TS Supporters

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    Purchased a gun on Gunbroker and when I picked it up it had a number of issues. None of the issues were in the item description. Contacted the seller and told him I wanted to return the gun because of the issues. The seller would not accept the gun back. Told the seller I would have to give him a negative feedback on Gunbroker and post the problem on Trapshooters.com. Didn't seem to bother him.
    Gunbroker id: Babyrock
    Sellers Name: Steve Jones
    Business: River Rock Pawn
    Marsing, Idaho 83639

    So, If you do any business with them, BEWARE they won't stand behind their product.
    Thanks
    Ed Chrisman
     
  2. john clime

    john clime TS Member

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    Bt100 was this for that old tm-1? I remember watching and wanting to bid on this.I remember it listed as a pawn shop in Idaho.The pictures did not look to bad for its price.Care to tell since i came close to pulling that trigger.
     
  3. Hydra

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    The rule in buying a gun throught the mail is you have 3 days to look it over. That rule is only for a mail order gun. He by the rules of any gun site has to honor that rule. Call Gunbroker and see what they can do for you.
     
  4. WesleyB

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    Pawns are hard to deal with.. and you dont know who yiou are buying from until you win the auction. Rather deal with individuals.
     
  5. skeet_man

    skeet_man Well-Known Member

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    Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with the gun?
     
  6. RunGunIPSC

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    How about the guy on Guns Ameruca that told me he was selling me a K-80 Super Scroll for $3200. Hey,OK,great. He said send money,FFL to such & such. I said,send me a phone # so I can call & make arrangements to pick up. I will hand you a postal money order & FFL & take the gun with. No pick-ups!!!! OOOOOO---KAY. He also on GA,offered a friend of mine a Model 21 20 ga for $1820
    Watch out for a guy as follows.
    Larry Walt
    1555N. Treasure Dr #553
    North Bay Village,FL 33141(Miami area)
    Also:AntiqueStocks;flgunexchgeinc@aol.com;collectionsantique@rocketmail.com
    Phone #'s 309 214-2217 775 908-5548
     
  7. djpk69

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    Thanks for the HEAD's UP....must be some kind of recourse.River Rock "PAWN" woulda kinda tipped me off though.I think trapshooters.com should police these guys.....say, 10-20 of us that live in/or close to Marsing,Idaho go pay Mr. Pawn a visit ! I live in Ohio , but, if he were 20 miles away I'd join.
     
  8. cubancigar2000

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    I live pretty close ( 38 miles) but I shoot at marsing every other week. Let me know Ed if I can help. I will ask about him at the club. I personally dont know him. I too saw the gun and I did not bid for one reason. Marsing has a lot of low lifes and I was leary.
     
  9. CWW

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    Many good purchases on Gunbroker then one big bad one. Seller(an individual) would not take it back. Posted negative feedback but that doesn't get your money back. Going back to buying from reputable dealers or situations where I can actually see the gun in person before buying.
     
  10. KEYBEAR

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    The rules are very clear . 1 a phone call . 2 An ATA number . 3 seen your handle before . and the most important a phone call .

    After alot of good buys and sales on trapshooters.com I got burnt Live and learn . I still trust most trap shooters .
     
  11. cubancigar2000

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    Me too Alf99.
     
  12. dmarbell

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    Boy, I've been lucky. No bad deals yet, TS.com, Gunbroker and Gunsamerica.

    Last purchase was on Gunbroker, a Para Ordnance Slim Hawg from new user, no ratings. Name "hearsedriver," changed to protect the innocent, most likely EMT. Got a good price, heard from him right away, then silence and no email for 3-4 days. Then he said he got the check, gun was shipped. Then silence for 3-4 days, no tracking number. Numerous requests for tracking number not answered. A week later my FFL called and had been out of town for a week, gun was picked up before the trip but just sat there.

    I'm flexible with my FFL, so no blame there, yet.

    Turns out the seller is inexperienced and most likely didn't know what to do to keep the buyer happy during the transaction.

    Do I "ding" him on the feedback, give him a chance to learn what to do before I "ding" him, or chalk it up to experience? He has nothing else listed for sale.

    By the way, the gun is as advertised, and I got a very good deal on it.

    Danny
     
  13. Brad Metcalf

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    What can you "ding"him on? By your own admission he did everthing he was supposed to do and you recieved what you paid for.
    Seems to me that if you are going to forgive your FFl for not calling you, you should do the same to the seller.
    Who knows why he didn't respond, maybe saw that it was delivered? Out of town? maybe just not a chatty feller?
    I do understand your anxiety though when sending payment to an unknown seller, Guy likes to know whats going on.

    NO Harm No Foul
    Brad Metcalf
     
  14. dmarbell

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    Brad,

    I only partially agree with your assessment. Here are the feedback choices on Gunbroker.

    A+ Transaction was handled in a totally professional fashion
    A Transaction was handled pretty well
    B Minor problems with transaction

    My assessment is that the transaction was an "A." Totally professional sellers answer emails promptly, and provide tracking numbers so buyers can determine when delivery is made.

    Had I been able to determine delivery time, I might have been able to get the deal done with my FFL before he went out of town for a week. Without tracking information, I was lost in space.

    I wouldn't go as far as "B," but feel the transaction was below "A+."

    I considered telling him what buyers expected in such a transaction, and giving him a chance to respond with the upgrade to A+. But I think this was a one-time deal for him.

    I am open to suggestions, as I don't want to be unfair.

    Danny, Not Solomon.
     
  15. SARGE75X

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    About 3 months ago I was high bidder on a Remington 1187. The ad said the gun came from a estate sale and appeared to have never been fired. So the gun shows up I open the box and first off the fore end is cracked. The picture in the ad showed the fore end but the picture stopped right at the crack. Then I look inside, hell the guy never even bothered to clean it, the gas system was full of residue and the barrel full of plastic. I called the guy, he gave me some story he was selling it for someone else and they described it.Then he says send the gun back and I'll send your money back, I'm like thats a little ass backwards, then you'll have my money and the gun. Be careful
     
  16. dverna

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    Many transactions and only been disappointedfreightdisappointed by one. The guy over estimated the condition. I wound up paying about $100 more than I should have. It wasn't worth the bother of returning and paying freight both ways.

    Don
     
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    Ed,

    I saw your feedback you left on Gunbroker over the TM1. Would you mind telling what issues the gun had?
     
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