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Gun theft suspect left behind cellphone

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  1. Joe Potosky

    Joe Potosky Well-Known Member

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    Gun theft suspect left behind cellphone that ID'd him, complaint says

    Wisconsin State Journal

    The man arrested for allegedly stealing two guns from an SUV parked at West Towne Mall accidentally left behind his name and photo for investigators to find.


    Checking a cellphone that the theft victim discovered in the vehicle, a police investigator found a photograph of an identification card belonging to Lamar E. Crump Jr., 21, of Madison, along with photos that Crump took of himself by pointing the phone at a mirror, according to a criminal complaint filed in Dane County Circuit Court.


    The thefts occurred on Dec. 11 as the victim, from Barneveld, shopped at West Towne Mall. When he returned to his vehicle, he noticed that it had been broken into and he was now missing a subwoofer and amplifier, along with a 12-gauge shotgun and an AR-15 assault rifle and clip loaded with 30 rounds.


    But as the owner checked the vehicle with a police officer, he found a cellphone that belonged to somebody else. Investigator Melanie Hampton analyzed the phone and found Crump's pictures on it.


    Crump was arrested on Dec. 15 on Madison's Southwest Side after getting out of a van that had been seen in the area of the gun theft. The subwoofer and amplifier were hooked up in the van, and the guns were found in the bedroom of Crump's apartment, according to the complaint.


    Crump was charged with two counts of felony theft and one count of misdemeanor theft. He remained in the Dane County Jail on $900 bail. He is also on probation for prior convictions.
     
  2. Aussie Dan

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    I might not understand this, but what the f$&k would you take a loaded AR 15 to the mall and leave it in your parked car?
     
  3. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Why would you take a unloaded gun to a mall? A loaded Ruger 40S&W under a truck seat saved the life of a man 3 miles down the road from me last Sat. afternoon. 1 dead and 1 wounded attackers were wielding baseball bats.
     
  4. Aussie Dan

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    A loaded hand gun, personal protection.

    An AR 15 with a 30 shot clip, in a car parked at the mall, could be a possible threat under the homeland security laws, right?
     
  5. bigdogtx

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    Not everyone is afraid of an AR,,,,remember those gangs in Wisconsin????

    If it is legal,,,,why shouldn't I be allowed to have anything in my truck,,,,,or should we divide our ranks AGAIN and let the anti-gunners have another few inches......
     
  6. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Not in my state, maybe if you reside in a socialist state or country. No difference between a loaded hi-capacity pistol or a loaded rifle, they serve the same purpose. I am not familiar with the laws in Wisconsin, but in Pa. where I reside walking in public with a exposed firearm does not require a permit, only a permit if you intend to conceal a firearm on your person.
     
  7. Aussie Dan

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    Perhaps true, don't get me wrong I love guns!

    It's just if I walked past a car parked on a mall, and someone sitting in it had a shotgun and an AR15 in there with them I'd be shit scared, looking for my handgun!

    If the guy in the SUV has a turban on, how about then? Assault rifle, public place, everyone's safe cause it's not illegal, right?
     
  8. TOOLMAKER 251

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    A gut sitting in a car with a AR is no more scarier then a guy sitting in a bar with a shot and beer in front of him. The muslim with the turbine is scary anywhere in a Judeo Christian country.
     
  9. Aussie Dan

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    Perhaps I'm jealous, as there's no chance of anyone getting an Ar15 here!

    In fact, I'll explain the same situation if it were to happen here, exactly.

    Guy that breaks into the car- charged with breaking and entering private property, and perhaps malicious damage.

    Guy that owns the car- charged with-
    - possession of a prohibited weapon
    - possession of an unregistered firearm (as you cannot register a prohibited weapon)
    - Improper storage of a firearm (as the Ar15 had ammunition in it, and it is illegal to store the firearm and ammunition in the same area, even in the trunk together is an offence)
    - unsafe transport of a firearm (if it was visible in the car with the car locked)

    I guess that's why it's a little difficult for me to understand the irony of the story!!!
     
  10. halfmile

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    Lamar........a nice Caucasian name, no doubt.

    Another stereotype reinforced.

    HM
     
  11. BDodd

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    Aussie Dan, a little story about my meeting one of your mates a few years back. He and I met in a bar in Los Angeles and we were both participants in the (then entitled) California Police Olympics. I'm unsure what his game was but I was shooting trap and skeet with a team representing our agency in the games. He was curious why I would engage in those venues when guns were so evil in the first place. It was his idea that I should take up soccer or some other game that didn't seem to justify the use of guns in public. I was courteous enough but we didn't come to any sort of agreement. Question for your situation; does a gun that shoots high here in the U.S. tend to shoot low when you are "down under?" <;-) ......breakemall
     
  12. halfmile

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    Dodd, you just have to get the gravity conversion.

    HM
     
  13. reddottm1

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    Why would a judge set his bail at 900.00 when he is a known felon. What is this world coming too..........
     
  14. likes-to-shoot

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    When I got my permit to carry one thing our instructor emphasized very strongly is if someone saw your weapon and called the police, law enforcement WILL neutralize the situation FIRST and then ask for permits later. And rightfully so in my opinion.

    Do you suppose the judges last name is Jackson or Sharpton?
     
  15. Lyle

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    I am happy to not live anywhere near where Aussie lives, New York City or California. I have a loaded AR-15 and a Glock in my truck nearly everyday. One in awhile I throw in a semi-auto 12 guage and the occasional trap gun too.

    I find that the AR-15 makes a great Coyote hunting rifle. I suppose it might serve as a self defense weapon if the situation arises too.

    Lyle
     
  16. Aussie Dan

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    @BDodd- I'm glad you didn't take up soccer and burn your 'evil' guns on the spot! As far as the high shooting gun, perhaps that's what I've been doing wrong all these years, using northern hemisphere trap guns!

    Best way I can explain our situation is like this. Here in Australia, guns are like sex!

    You can't have some in public without getting into trouble!

    The shops where you buy it are kind of frowned upon!

    Everybody, deep down, tree huggers and all, wants some!

    And the guys that have it have a real fun time with it!!!
     
  17. KENENT1

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    the only reason I have a couple 30 round clips for my ar is I can't find any 50 round clips..


    tony
     
  18. BigM-Perazzi

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    "Here in Australia, guns are like sex!"

    Can't get any there, either?
     
  19. BDodd

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    Aussie Dan; I have a hunch you and I would be good friends regardless of the location. In fact, given my surviving alzheimers, I might have even joined you for a visit where standing on the Earth requires something to hold you down (up)! Don't ever give up your guns and say some good words for our nations......breakemall
     
  20. Oscar Ray

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    You guys are killing me, Its not a CLIP...Its a MAGAZINE. Clips are what women use to pin up their hair, Magazines are inserted into semi-auto handguns and rifles, even some shotguns like the Saiga. Liberals just love it when they can point out how backward gun owners are and using the wrong terminology reinforces that.

    Oscar
     
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