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Gun Safe question

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by capvan, Dec 17, 2009.

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  1. capvan

    capvan Active Member

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    Just bought a gun safe. Has anyone ever been locked out of a safe to the point of needing to call a locksmith? It has an electronic lock. Is a de-humidifying system of some sort absolutely necessary? Live in Vermont and humidity is not usually a problem, except for a very few days every summer. Any other tips?

    Thanks!

    Bruce
     
  2. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

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    I bought the old bank wheel dial lock. Guess I am old fashioned but I don't trust the electonic ones. I have lived in Colorado, Indiana, South Dakota, Arizona, Washington, oregon and now Idaho. I have never had humidty problems but do know people who had guns rust in Indiana & oregon. I wipe my guns down with Rig and it last's for years. Best sh-- ever but they dont sell it anymore. I was lucky to have bought a case a long time ago and a jar last's almost a lifetime.
     
  3. abbielew

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    Use Birchwood Casey Badrricade for your total gun protection, RUST etc.

    Birddog
     
  4. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

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    The best thing you can do is locate the safe inside your house where the temperature is fairly constant. Unheated garages are not so good. Humidity can be a problem in some areas and a 'Golden Rod' will take care of that at minimal cost. If you have ever had a gun rust just sitting around the house then the same thing will probably happen in the safe.

    As far as being locked out, never a problem for me. I have the combo print stashed elsewhere, just in case , and my wife knows the combo as well. I don't know about the electronic locks, seems like more could go wrong than with a mechanical lock.
     
  5. KEYBEAR

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    I have a electronic lock and like it alot I also have a safe with a dial lock . The Electronic is so easy and fast I may change the dial over .

    As for a Golden Rod buy one now it,s not worth the worry .
     
  6. Hoosier Daddy

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    You can use a low wattage light bulb in place of the Golden Rod. It is much cheaper. Something on the order of a 40 watt or less bulb. I use a Golden Rod but I know others that use a light bulb. All a golden rod does is put off heat to dry the air. At least that is what I have been told.
     
  7. Border Bandit

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    There's a neat gadget that Remington markets. It is filled with that dri-right stuff and turns color when it has absorbed enough moisture from inside your gun vault, notifying you it's time to re-charge. Then, plug it into a wall outlet, and it dries out, the color changes and put it back in your safe. Mine works for a couple of months, and re-charges in about a day. Very nice, highest recommendation. ......mike
     
  8. Pocatello

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    My electronic lock went bad one time. I called the manufacturer, who sent out a locksmith. Even with their explicit instructions and the proper tools it took him about six hours over two days to get into it. Once in he replaced the lock, and I have had no more problems. It did give me some confidnce that the casual thief will not get in easily.
     
  9. deercreek

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    How can a 40 watt lightbulb be so much cheaper than a rod---the 18" models use 7-10 watts of power ???
     
  10. Steve W

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    My friend's late uncle left a fairly good ($2000) safe without the combination, the manufacture send a guy to replace the lock, He tent the safe, we heard drilling, he came out with the safe door opened and a ruined lock within 2 minutes, no damage to the safe at all. The service and a new lock was $475 six years ago.

    Don't go crazy on big fancy safes, they only delays the professionals. My suggestion is buy multiple smaller (10~12 gun) safes, bolt them down, so they might not find all your safes and won't get all your guns with one drilling.

    Goldenrod runs approx. 18 watts for gun safe size, if you can use something generate the same heat with less elec. usage, by all means use it, Goldenrod is expensive.
     
  11. xringjim

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    Mike, took you up on your rec. for the Rem product. I've been mulling over which dehumid to buy. 30.94 with shipping from Cabela's. Thanks, Jim
     
  12. Frank C

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    buy a heavy safe with an electronic lock and never look back......=.02 worth
     
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    After owning two safes with electronic locks and watching a friend open his dial lock in poor light, I'll never own anything but electronic.

    Bruce, I did have a problem with an electronic lock on a brand new safe. I don't know if your question was posed because you've had a problem or just want to know what can happen if you do. Anyway, when my current safe was delivered and set up, I changed the combination from the default to the one I use. With the door open, I locked and unlocked it several times to make sure it worked with the new code. But the first time I tried unlocking it with the door closed, it didn't unlock.

    Several calls to Liberty failed to get it open so they dispatched a local locksmith. Meanwhile, I retraced my exact movements and remembered that since I was going to lock and unlock it several times while testing the new code, I had my left hand on the handle, so I placed my hand there and punched in the code. The safe unlocked!

    It turns out that the linkage in the door was j-u-s-t a hair misadjusted and there had to be slight counterclockwise pressure on the handle for there to be no binding of the lock. However, as the locksmith told me, that can happen with either type lock.

    For what it's worth...

    Ed
     
  14. capvan

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    Thanks to everyone for all the tips and comments. I bought a Sentry safe from Home Depot. The big deal will be getting it into the house. It's around 500 lbs. I will also be buying one of the Remington de-humidifiers for it.

    Bruce
     
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    Ditto on the Birch Wood Casey Barricade, formerly known as Sheath. Best stuff ever.
     
  16. psfive

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    Electronic is my choice. If you ever need to change the combination for whatever reason it takes only a few minutes. I change (9 volt) the battery every year at the same time I do the smoke alarms. Never had a problem. Have a Goldenrod in there to dry the air, never had rust either. Paul
     
  17. ramen39

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    I've had A safe for about 4 years. The guy I bought it from talked me out of an electronic lock. Finally after all that time I had A locksmith put me an electronic one on. The combination was so sensitive that it would take me 3 or 4 tries to get it open. I got so I would just not spin the dial when I shut it which was the same as no safe. Long story short. It would have been much cheaper and less hassle if I had got the electronic lock in the first place.
    The man that put my new lock on said he has to work on them now and then but he also has to work on the combination locks now and then also.
     
  18. Haskins Bill

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    I know it is like wearing suspenders and a belt at the same time. I use the Remington dehumidifier and the golden rod both. No problems with the electronic lock. They have a memory built in so if the battery goes dead it still remembers the combination. I am going to replace the dial lock on my other safe soon. Too much hassle with the dial type. Let's see maybe 10 watts 24/7 100 hours would be a kilowatt. Hmmm let us say 12 cents a kilowatt or what ever to protect say 10,000 worth of firearms from rusting. Pretty reasonable cost I would say. Bill
     
  19. Steve W

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    Costco has a 19.44 cu ft. Cannon gun safe with fire protection and power box build in for $579.99 delivered. I think it's a good buy.
     
  20. Hoosier Daddy

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    Deer Creek, buy a 40 watt bulb or even a 25 watt bulb and then buy a Golden Rod and compare the prices. You can burn a 25 watt bulb for a lifetime on the difference it would take in electricity. Besides, I was talking about initial costs.
     
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