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Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by welderman, Sep 22, 2007.

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  1. welderman

    welderman TS Member

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    I hijacked this image from a recent thread. This is the mount recommended by many top shooters because it makes it possible to look out of the center of your lenses, your head is in a natural upright position, and it is very comfortable. That's the good news. Is there some not so good news, like, isn't the moment about your shoulder rather large? Wouldn't that result in significant muzzle rise? Isn't the main reason for the unsingle to minimize this condition? Tom S. (welderman)
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  2. welderman

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    Trying to enter image for above thread.
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  3. welderman

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    Trying again. If this doesnt work, I am referring to the fit where the recoil pad is lowered several inches so it can fit in the shoulder pocket, while the gun is brought high to the face with the axis of the barrel well above the shoulder.
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  4. chiefjon

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    The hold shown looks pretty good to me. I have my pad lowered about the same. I don't quite get the question regarding the unsingle. The gun in question is not an unsingle. As I understand it the unsingle advantage is reduced felt recoil due to relationship of the barrel to the shoulder; the ease in picking up the target; and reduced heat waves. The new K 80 and the Perazzi 2005 unsingle have extremely high unsingle ribs, however particularly the P 2005 has a very thick stock so that the eye height/rib ralationship isn't that much different, IMHO.

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    I do understand what you are referring to. My wife has an elegently long neck so the stock that Wenig's team made for her has wood that is quite long to accomodate this distance....perhaps the added length/contact area might decrease any tendency toward upward rotation.....but it is bulky and mandates keeping the torso in line with the neck during rotation.

    It does seem that many advocate that the top of the recoil pad be even with the top of the shoulder....... and yet I've seen quite a few excellent trap and especially international trapshooters tuck the pad lower in the pocket than is often advocated. Their postiion appears more aggressive, athletic in a sense, really translating foward and into the gun.
     
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    Welderman......Gun mount and gun hold point are two different things. Which are you refering to? Gun mount must always be consistent or you desired POI is not obtained at the shot. Gun hold, in my opinion should be high above the house. A high rib permits your peripheral vision to see the target quicker and better, and works good with a high hold.
     
  7. welderman

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    My question is about gun mount (not POI). It seems to me that as the distance between the barrel and the point where it is connected to your shoulder is increased, the tendency for muzzle rise is increased. If the barrel were directly in line with the shoulder, there would be no muzzle rise, and if the barrel were below the attachment point, there would be a muzzle dip. Tom S. (welderman)
     
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    Looks like you been to Country Gentleman !WHich is Good .


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