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gun club vs sts

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by melbournemike, Feb 13, 2010.

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  1. melbournemike

    melbournemike TS Member

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    I've recently returned to trapshooting after an 18 yr hiatus! Is there any substantial differance between STS and remington gunclub hulls?
     
  2. Unknown1

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    If you're talking about reloading them, they use the same data. The only significant difference between the two becomes an issue in relation to the type of loader you use. STS has a brass base, GC has a steel base. It's generally a bit harder to got some primers to seat properly in the steel base using a P-W or Spolar press than it is using a MEC because of how the primer pocket is/isn't supported.

    Otherwise they're basically the same.

    MK
     
  3. 635 G

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    Lots of times gun club & game club hulls are dropped & depending on club rules they are free for the taking. I've never paid for a gun club & or game clubs.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  4. Tron

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    I've noticed no difference in my scores between the two. The STS shells do cycle smoother through my autos though.
     
  5. Bridger

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    I have had a couple of guns where the Gun Club hull would not cycle as well but it's a very durable hull that is generally free for the taking. I have enough to last as long as I will be shooting.
     
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    Ditto on cycling the Gun Clubs through a Spolar. If you don't have a hydraulic, you will definitely notice a difference. I sometimes will reload a few Gun Clubs and then toss them. Right now, I have so many STS I leave the Gun Clubs on the ground when I see them.

    Gene Batchelar
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  7. Spanky

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    Some of the Gun Clubs are just a washed brass. They look brass but they are steel. Do a magnet check, note the magnet will pick up on a steel base, the primer only of a brass base. They can be reloaded, I've tried it, and they reload quite well I just don't have the need to reload them. Alot of guys shoot them, Remington sell alot of them. They probably sell more Gun Clubs than anything these days.
     
  8. Dr.Longshot

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    I reload both of them w/same components, have not noticed any difference, shooting or reloading them. I have a substantial sepply of both, for identification purposes I use the gun clubs w/8s and the STS w/ 71/2s that way never get them mixed up.

    I also load the gun clubs w/buddy line back loads w/primer blacked out w/Black Permanent Marker. Loaded w/26grs 800-X, 1 3/16s #6s. That way lead stays the same when buddy misses his target.



    Gary Bryant
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  9. oldgahchamp

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    Mike, STS hulls are smooth.. That may be the reason the GC would not cycle in my 391 shooting doubles. ( factory GC not reloads). Sold the 391. Have loaded lots of STS & GC. Both are excellent. Might add, the FIRST time I used factory GC I broke 198x200. Larry
     
  10. Spanky

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    I've put a few thousand of the Gun Clubs (factory and reloads) through my 391 Urika 2 Sporting Optima without any issues. Skeet, wobble and sporting mostly all doubles shots. Sounds more like a carrier/elevator issue or an action spring if your gun is clean. I havn't been messing with them to much as of late but, I shoot with guys that they've reloaded them close to a dozen times. I reload my Remington shells with Red Dot or Green Dot so I won't get a dozen reloads with that powder.
     
  11. Andy44

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    I've had a few of the steel bases come loose from the hull on Gun Clubs, even though I resize every one when reloading. Other than that, they reload and shoot fine!

    AndyH ;-)
     
  12. Setterman

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    MEC says the Steel hulls will decrease the life of your sizing collet.
     
  13. Unknown1

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    I've resized 10s of thousands of Gun Club hulls on the same Super Sizer over the past 5 years and never did anything to it than clean/lube every couple thousand hulls. No sign of wear.

    If yours wears out, just replace it. That's why they're not welded in.

    MK
     
  14. W.P.T.

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    Gun Clubs are the Generic version of STS's, I have been told softer shot ... I do not reload but have been told Gun Club hulls reload the same and last just as long as the STS or Nitro hulls ... I shoot a lot of Gun Club shells and have never had any issues with them in my Perazzi's or Model 12's ... I have never had any issues with the Nitro's or STS's for that matter either ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  15. melbournemike

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    THank you guys! THey reload well on my mec 650 and I have plenty .Many shooters leave them on the ground and I replace after 2 or 3 reloads.
     
  16. Spanky

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    A guy I shoot with is getting close to a dozen reloads on the Gun Club. As much as I like my STS and Nitro reloads I can't say I'm getting a dozen reloads out of them. This could be because of my component combination.
     
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