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GUN CLUB SECURITY QUESTION

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by ummie, Dec 7, 2010.

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  1. ummie

    ummie TS Member

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    Our Gun Club building was vandalized again Sunday night. It is Christmas so I guess Santa needed a new TV, cases of shotgun shells and cases of soda. We had a double key lock (2 regular door locks)on the front door. I am soliciting suggestions on how to better secure the building. How do other clubs operate? Is there a combination type lock that is good? Or an electronic keypad? Steel doors? We have been considering a security camera but they would probably destroy that when they see it. We do not have any manager or groundskeeper on the premises. We are small and cannot afford that. We have an indoor archery range, small kitchen, a common meeting/card game area, bathrooms and 2 storage areas inside the building. Any suggestions from other gun clubs on how to secure and protect club assets when no one is on the premises? What is the best way to keep this from happening again (not the 1st time)? What can we do different to the front door? Suggestions are appreciated.

    Jim "Ummie" Umberger
    Secretary, Short Mountain Gun Club
     
  2. Russ-in-Pa

    Russ-in-Pa Well-Known Member

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    Steel doors would be a good starting point. Not the Home depot residential doors, but a commercial steel door with steel jambs. There is hardware available that is prybar resistant. A steel plate can be bolted over the strike plate by the lock so it cant be pried open as easily.

    Talk to your local police department, or State police barracks to see what they can offer. They see the results of breakins, and should be able to offer some ideas to "harden" your club building.
     
  3. edthearcher

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    we have 2 club houses, plus a shooting range, are club also has a out door rifle range, we do archery indoors, out doors, pistol indoor range, trap and skeet all of are property indoors and out is covered by security cameras, all are hooked up to computers, all of are doors open with a security card, even are out door range. we have had very little trouble
     
  4. unioncracker

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    Talking to local law enforcement is good. If you have broadband access at the club, buy an IP ready camera and setup off site record capability, besides being able to view camera from any pc. If they destroy the camera you still have them on camera. PM me if you need more info, be glad to help.

    Buddy
     
  5. kherndon

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    Put a fence around the building then put one Pitt Bull and one Doberman inside the fence, that should take care of the problem.
     
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    The IP camera is a good idea. The down side, sorry to say, you will probably recognize the person doing it. Mike
     
  7. smokinbuck

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    Jim,
    You can put in steel doors, bars and traps but if they want to get in they will just do more damage than before. We don't leave anything in sight inside but more effectivly,the sheriff to drives through the grounds at random times. Knock on wood there have been no problems.
    Mark
     
  8. Unknown1

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    The club I mostly shoot at had similar problems until they bought a retired 20-feet ocean-going steel cargo container to replace the plywood Amish storage shed. Nothing has gone missing since then.

    MK
     
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    Talking to local law enforcement is good. If you have broadband access at the club, buy an IP ready camera and setup off site record capability, besides being able to view camera from any pc. If they destroy the camera you still have them on camera. PM me if you need more info, be glad to help.

    Buddy
     
  10. kherndon

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    Put a fence around the building then put one Pitt Bull and one Doberman inside the fence, that should take care of the problem.
     
  11. twotimer

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    The IP camera is a good idea. The down side, sorry to say, you will probably recognize the person doing it. Mike
     
  12. smokinbuck

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    Jim,
    You can put in steel doors, bars and traps but if they want to get in they will just do more damage than before. We don't leave anything in sight inside but more effectivly,the sheriff to drives through the grounds at random times. Knock on wood there have been no problems.
    Mark
     
  13. Unknown1

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    The club I mostly shoot at had similar problems until they bought a retired 20-feet ocean-going steel cargo container to replace the plywood Amish storage shed. Nothing has gone missing since then.

    MK
     
  14. Bob Schultz

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    If you have the land, you might consider a single wide mobile home available rent free to a single local policeman or sheriff deputy. A police cruiser parked there every day tends to fend off the barbarians...

    Bob
     
  15. BDodd

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    I was going to suggest roughly what Sir Schultz beat me to. Don't ignore just having that mobile home and a fellow or couple that would like a free place to live without pay unless they want to actually function as a shooting assistant/manager/maintenance person. .....Bob Dodd
     
  16. dzneff

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    Our clubhouse was broken into about 20 years ago. Installed commercial security system and no problem since.
     
  17. spitter

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    Window-less steel doors with twin-cylinder deadbolts into reinforced door jamb... plus motion activated lighting...

    Jay
     
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    Our club uses a commercially monitored security system works for us. All buildings are tied into it
     
  19. Unknown1

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    Security systems are worthless if they use the phone lines to summon help (wire cutters, ya know).

    Police response time out where gun clubs are usually located can be painfully slow.

    Alarms are useless if nobody is around the hear them.

    Cameras are pointless if the thefts happen at night.

    I'd rather keep them out than try to catch them after they get in.

    MK
     
  20. Twinbirds

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    cameras help to deter the wannabes, the harden ones know ways around most anything. Make driveway access difficult, most don't want to carry a TV 100 yds, bigger chance of getting caught.
     
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