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gun bill coming

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by raymerlo, Jan 29, 2009.

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  1. raymerlo

    raymerlo Member

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    Here's a new bill for you to look at,read it and weep

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show Note that the only difference is the last word.
     
  2. H82MIS

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    If this bill gets passed ya'll better plan your vacations,,, cause I for one will be heading to DC hopefully a with a million or so others,,,

    and the brothas thought the million man march was som'tin,,
     
  3. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    Bobby Rush, the Black Panther Party co-founder, has little credibility. This bill is going nowhere.
     
  4. grunt

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    Lets hope your right. Every days a new adventure.
     
  5. Jerbear

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  6. Hitapair

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    Jerbear- Thanks for posting.

    MIA- Don't give up. We'll certainly lose if you and others throw in the towell.
     
  7. H82MIS

    H82MIS TS Member

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    Chicago politics??????,,,,jeez,, who is that in the white house???

    Anythings possible,,,
     
  8. Dove Commander

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    MIA, Think about it. If your anti gun, and you want make an impact, when would be the best time? Don't underestimate the opposition. That's what Canada and the UK did.
     
  9. raymerlo

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    Mr.MIA,I think that you do not want to face realty,look between the lines and see what is going on around you,as far as me being insecure you are sadly mistakenI don't walk around with my head in the clouds like some people that post here
     
  10. raymerlo

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    some more insecurity
    Congress Seeks To Authorize & Legalize FEMA Camp Facilities
    Published on 01-26-2009

    By: Lee Rogers

    A new bill has been introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives called the National Emergency Centers Act or HR 645. This bill if passed into law will direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers otherwise known as FEMA camp facilities on military installations. This is an incredibly disturbing piece of legislation considering that the powers that be have already set in motion an agenda to setup a nationwide marital law apparatus through U.S. Northern Command and the Department of Homeland Security. Apparently, the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough. Even though we already know that detention facilities are already in place, they now want to legalize the construction of FEMA camps on military installations using the ever popular excuse that the facilities are for the purposes of a national emergency. With the phony debt based economy getting worse and worse by the day, the possibility of civil unrest is becoming a greater threat to the establishment. One need only look at Iceland, Greece and other nations for what might happen in the United States next. With this in mind, it appears as if these so called national emergency centers will be used in a national emergency but only if the national emergency requires large groups of people to be rounded up and detained. If that isn’t the case, than why have these national emergency facilities built in military installations?

    Let’s look through the various portions of the bill. Here is section 2 of the bill taken directly from the proposed legislation.

    SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.
    (a) In General- In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.

    (b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure--

    (1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;

    (2) to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders;

    (3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and

    (4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

    The legislation says that the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations. This means that the Secretary of Homeland Security can setup as many FEMA camps within military installations as they want, it just has to be more than 6 of them. On top of that, it also states that the facilities will be used to meet other appropriate needs as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security. This could mean anything. If the Secretary of Homeland Security thinks it is appropriate to kill large groups of people like the Nazis did in World War II Germany, than it looks as if this bill would give them the authority to use these facilities for that purpose.

    Below is section 3 taken from the bill.
    SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

    (a) In General- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.

    (b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be--

    (1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;

    (2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;

    (3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;

    (4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;

    (5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;

    (6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:

    (A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and

    (B) the other shall be used daily for training; and

    (7) easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.

    (c) Location of National Emergency Centers- There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:

    (1) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.

    (2) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.

    (3) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.

    (4) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.

    (5) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.

    (6) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.

    (d) Preference for Designation of Closed Military Installations- Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers.

    (e) Transfer of Control of Closed Military Installations- If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation.

    (f) Cooperative Agreement for Joint Use of Existing Military Installations- If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.

    (g) Reports-
    (1) PRELIMINARY REPORT- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

    (A) an outline of the reasons why the site was selected;

    (B) an outline of the need to construct, repair, or update any existing infrastructure at the site;

    (C) an outline of the need to conduct any necessary environmental clean-up at the site;

    (D) an outline of preliminary plans for the transfer of control of the site from the Secretary of Defense to the Secretary of Homeland Security, if necessary under subsection (e); and

    (E) an outline of preliminary plans for entering into a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f).

    (2) UPDATE REPORT- Not later than 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

    (A) an update on the information contained in the report as required by paragraph (1);

    (B) an outline of the progress made toward the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

    (C) an outline of the progress made toward entering a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

    (D) recommendations regarding any authorizations and appropriations that may be necessary to provide for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

    (3) FINAL REPORT- Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

    (A) finalized information detailing the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

    (B) the finalized cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

    (C) any additional information pertinent to the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

    (4) ADDITIONAL REPORTS- The Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, may submit to Congress additional reports as necessary to provide updates on steps being taken to meet the requirements of this Act.

    This section authorizes the Homeland Security Secretary to setup these FEMA camps in closed or open military installations and in regions around the nation. This essentially legalizes any existing FEMA camp infrastructure that has been built in either closed or open military installations and opens the door for additional facilities to be created.

    Fortunately, the bill only authorizes $180,000,000 per year for these facilities, but considering that the majority of the detention facilities are probably already built, they won't need much additional funding. There is no doubt judging from the language of this bill, that it is meant to legalize what they’ve already been doing. After all, FEMA has already been looking at ways to transport large quantities of people to camps, they held a FEMA camp drill which consisted of an illegal alien round up in Iowa and KBR/Halliburtion has already aided in the creation of detention facilities. The rationale behind this legislation is undoubtedly to serve as a mechanism of control if the authorities need facilities to hold large amounts of dissenting people. This is not to help people. One only needs to take a look at what happened during Hurricane Katrina and it is obvious that the government does not care about the people. They didn't care then, and they don't care now, and these facilities built or unbuilt will definitely not be utilized for the people's interest.
     
  11. H82MIS

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    That was interesting to say the least,,,so I'll back it up with this link,,,enjoy,,,
     
  12. Jerbear

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    You must mean these...

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    Jerbear
     
  13. BT-100dc

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    Now, more important than before, join the NRA. Been a member for over 45 years and you can rest assured they will fight for gun rights and ammo bans, etc. Also, call your representatives in Congress. The fight will need millions of supporters across all political party lines. It's a shame we have to fight but your other rights will also fall if these clowns are able to dissolve your Second Amendment rights. Look at New York City, have few gun rights and now they want to tell you what to eat and drink. Stop the madness. Darrell
     
  14. JACK

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    BT100. Yes. 100% agreement.
     
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